plan to prevent colonialism from ever happening...

Discussion in 'History' started by wastingthedawn, Sep 24, 2006.

  1. wastingthedawn

    wastingthedawn *~Pure Light~*

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    so I've been reading alot about colonialism latley...in fact, I spend the majority of my time reading about colonialism...most of my classes have something or other to do with it....not to mention the things I learned from traveling last year...

    Basically this is how I feel. I want to make a time machine, go back to the first wave of imperielism....then follow around the main leaders who made these decisions and hit them in the back of the head with a bamboo stick everytime they have a thought about taking over a country, exploiting it's people and raping it's land...then they will link colonialism with pain and maybe think...hm... these people are not animals, but people like me...and maybe just maybe this is their land and I should respect that..and I have enough money, and don't have to steal all of these peoples resources and screw them in the future...

    I do realise some good things came out of these invasions...and that everything is subjective...and that the past is the past...but man, we just make the same mistakes over and over...and building a time machine seems easier then following around the world leaders of today and hitting them with a bamboo stick everytime they make these same decisions...
     
  2. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    you would have to go very far back and also in lots of different cultures

    you had whole villages of people taken to africa as slaves from cornwall and the western part of england ,but thats a history of black people making white people slaves that because of the racist media that we have you are unlikely to ever hear anything about .

    The word slave comes from slav eastern europeans who were enslaved by the turks and north africans but again another sort of oppression and colonialism you wont hear much about .
     
  3. wastingthedawn

    wastingthedawn *~Pure Light~*

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    I didn't say anything about ethniticity though...I'm simply desterbed by colonialism and slavery in general. I said nothing about black and white...I can admit however that I was more picturing the first wave of colonnialisation in Brazil by the Spanish and Portugese. But ya, it did span over many era's, many cultures...It's a global issue, not the just issue of a certain race or country.
     
  4. Flight From Ashiya

    Flight From Ashiya Senior Member

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    The problem is that western civilization is inexorably linked to 'colonialism'.
    Many countries of the world owe their very existence to 'colonialism'.
    That's not to say that colonialism wasn't a devestating destroyer of communities & nations:
    The aztecs ,incas, red indians & aboriginies were all virtually wiped out by colonialism & imperialism.
    Africa was raped by the western european powers at the turn of the 20th century to the extent that it is the only continent in the world in the 21st century that can't feed itself adequately.
    World War One was caused by the clash of three Empires:The Ottoman Empire-The Habsburg Empire & The British Empire-all vieing for space & supremacy.
    World War Two was partly a result of the unresolved legacy of Empires (As well ,or course,as the Wall St.Crash & subsequent Depression).

    The 'Roman Empire' was colonialism.Often the excuse for colonialism is to spread 'religious' belief but The British,Germans,French & Dutch Boers didn't go into Africa simply for missionary zeal;they went in for Gold,Silver,Bauxite & Diamonds.
     
  5. dash

    dash Member

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    I just wonder how far back you would think to go to try and eliminate colonialism and expansionism. I mean, yall are just talking AD so far, what about earlier in history? If ya go back far enough in time, you'll find land with abolutely no human touch, would you stop people from moving there? How bout the extintion of the neandertals(sp?) in europe??
     
  6. crummyrummy

    crummyrummy Brew Your Own Beer Lifetime Supporter

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    what about colonizing mars or other planets?
     
  7. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    It would never work! Know why? Because the first time you hit a leader with a bamboo stick you would be arrested on the spot!

    Otherwise I would help you with construction of the time machine.
     
  8. dash

    dash Member

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    Naw, ya wouldn't be arrested, that's too new of a liberty. Hit a king with a bamboo stick and you'd be killed on the spot.
     
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