HappY Thanksgiving PLS try to forgive the settlers for taking the native land

and be thankful.

 

The huge majority of the land wasn't taken.

 

mmmm... turkey day is good.

 

I haven't celebrated thanksgiving in years. Only thing I enjoy about today is the double header of CFL games.

 

Our thanksgiving is about nothin more than a good harvest though. That's what I've been told, anyhow...
(However, I live 20 minutes from Caledonia, Ontario... If you guys have heard about that crazy scene happening there... You might get a different story there. )

Either way, Happy Thanksgiving.

 

I am so full of delicious dark turkey meat. Mmmm.

 

Which is dark meat and which is white meat?? I never got that...

 

white meat is the breast... its is dryer. I like it ... dark meat is more "animal-y"

 

White meat is white, like chicken breast. Dark meat is dark, like chicken thighs and neck.

 

The settlers dind't take the land, the governemtn gave it to them.

Yeah, Canadian thanksgiving is originally about a harvest festival (hence the earlier date)

 

happy harvest

ps, one of my favourite bumper stickers says: our home IS native land.

 

I believe that they were shafted in a big way.....

 

guess we'd be either in Europe (or where-ever your 'heritage' is from) or not even thought up of at all though if we didn't live here.

Don't forget, Natives don't have to pay the high taxes we do in this country. I wouldn't say they got shafted in a big way.

 

wow no taxes

do you have any idea what colinization has done to native people?

First diseases, then violent genocide, then forced sterilization with eugenics, then residential schools which all contributed to many lost tribes and whole entire cultures gone. Also there is still a lot of racism in Canada towards First Nations people.



Also there are many restrictions on not paying taxes.

If you do not feel that natives got shafted in a big way you have a very ignorant attitude. maybe you should try doing some research

 

Wow.. now that is just rude. She was just expressing an opinion.

Yes, they were treated badly. They were treated badly in the States too. On the bright side the Settlers here didn't straight out kill the Natives... just made their life hell.

And as much as they were treated badly... I am sick people making ME feel guilty. I didn't do it. People say "well, your ancestors did". Guess what? Nope.. my ancestors were all still in Scotland.

Also, the racism that is prevelent in Canada really has nothing to do with the Settlers. Its moved beyond that. I think it has more to do with present day behavior on all sides.

 

the racism in canada against first nations people is horrible. as a canadian i'm ashamed and embarrassed that it's still happens here.

people are people and are all deserving of love and respect.

 

I was in no way trying to make people feel guilty for what their ancestors did. I am half native and half white so it would be very hypocritical for me to have an attitude of "you should be guilty if you are white"



Even if your ancestors where not here in Canada at the time of first colonization you need to realize that people who live in Canada now are benefiting from the colonization of First Nations people.



I am not also just talking about the first settlers if you read what I said but also the cultural genocide form the government and church with residential school, the last one was shut down in 1986 which is not very long ago.



And racism from all sides?



Sure it happens from both sides but you need to look at the power dynamics of the situation. All racism is bad but it is even worse when those in power are racist towards a minority. A lot of racism does come from settlers and the attitude of those times that has been passed down from generation to generation. If you have a different idea of where this modern day racism comes from please explain it.



And on the bright side?



Many Natives did die to settlers, or the government killing natives for settlers for the best resource spots, many tribes on the east coast of Canada where killed off.







I really do not care if I am rude, this is a subject which affects me personally and I believe people need to look at the situation from all sides and do some research on this subject before they talk about it in a public place. I really believe it is rude to say something such as “well it is not that bad since they do not have to pay high taxes” when so much has happened.

 

High taxes! Ha!


They were ripped away from their families, institutionalized, completely made to forget their language and culture, and forced into Chrisitian beliefs.... and NEVER compsensated for this!


And still looked down upon.

Id be pretty pissed off.

 

I wasn't saying that the racism should be tollerated or excused in any way.

Was just saying that I didn't think that the modern day Non-Native had the racial issues with the modern day Native because of what happened all those years ago. It stems from modern day issues, behaviours and miscommunications. At least, it doesn't stem from settlement in Saskatchewan...

And I wasn't saying that racism toward the white people was a problem.. was saying that it is the behaviours of both sides that was fueling the racial problem.

I know that Natives were treated badly by the Government. But, I've lived places in the States where every native was killed, either indirectly by the Trail of Tears or just straight out killed. At one festival I went to they had to bring in a dance troop from South Dakota! South Dakota all the way to southern Ohio. Which is better? I can't say... the direct killing or the killing of a culture over 100's of years.

I have done research into the race relation issues we face. I wrote several papers on the subject while in University. Saskatchewan is a powder-keg waiting to go off... racial issues are a major problem in our society, and it isn't getting better.

 

That's how I feel. I shouldn't be made to feel guilty for something people did way before my parents time, let alone my time.