Jury awards $11.3M over defamatory Internet posts

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  1. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    This is a warning to everyone on the Hip Forums that this is now how the law works! You're just looking for trouble if you defame people over the internet. Present company included.

    Jury awards $11.3M over defamatory Internet posts
    Posted 10/10/2006 10:07 PM ET
    By Laura Parker, USA TODAY
    A Florida woman has been awarded $11.3 million in a defamation lawsuit against a Louisiana woman who posted messages on the Internet accusing her of being a "crook," a "con artist" and a "fraud."

    Legal analysts say the Sept. 19 award by a jury in Broward County, Fla. — first reported Friday by the Daily Business Review — represents the largest such judgment over postings on an Internet blog or message board. Lyrissa Lidsky, a University of Florida law professor who specializes in free-speech issues, calls the award "astonishing."

    Lidsky says the case could represent a coming trend in court fights over online messages because the woman who won the damage award, Sue Scheff of Weston, Fla., pursued the case even though she knew the defendant, Carey Bock of Mandeville, La., has no hope of paying such an award. Bock, who had to leave her home for several months because of Hurricane Katrina, couldn't afford an attorney and didn't show up for the trial.

    "What's interesting about this case is that (Scheff) was so vested in being vindicated, she was willing to pay court costs," Lidsky says. "They knew before trial that the defendant couldn't pay, so what's the point in going to the jury?"

    Scheff says she wanted to make a point to those who unfairly criticize others on the Internet. "I'm sure (Bock) doesn't have $1 million, let alone $11 million, but the message is strong and clear," Scheff says. "People are using the Internet to destroy people they don't like, and you can't do that."
     
  2. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    eeek thats scary
    1: calling someone a crook on a message board really in no way destroys them...but
    2: an 11 million judgment against someone who lost theyre home to katrina certainly can destroy theyre lives & prevent them from being able to get a new home & back on theyre feet

    i dont thinkits as much about people using stupid posts online to tryto destroy anyone but about people using the law to destroy someone just to get a point accross
    but i suppose this can be taken as me calling her a selfish vindictive b&*%$ & now she can sue me too...so i wanna make it perfectly clear ..i never said anyone was a bitch :)
     
  3. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Obviously the case was an easy win, but the real point is that you better be ready to defend your actions or pay the price of "free speech" when it hurts someone else.
     
  4. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    well i always try not to hurt people..or be insulting, i see no point in that..but u never know how people will reacte to something ya say, especialy if its just truthful...

    but i understand where your commin from, & agree that theres realy no place for deliberate attempts to attack people just to be hurtfull or makle em look bad..but theres a fine line sometmes between being britaly honnest & being deliberately hurtful
     
  5. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Heres how libel works in the US.

    If you call someone a fraud, a liar, or a con artist, it can be considered libel, because it destroys their reputation.

    However, if you call someone an asshole, and say bullshit to whatever they say, that is not libel.

    Strange eh? I'll post a wiki link for now. I'll try and find the statute tommorow.

    No promises...I've been real buzy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libel
     
  6. makno

    makno Senior Member

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    an eye for an eye .....is this why justicia gots the bandage over her eyes ....ill be glad when im dead .....and all you stupid humans can heap suffering ontop of sorrow and pain ......just so long as everything is "fair " and nobody is "offended " .....hey , if we uphold every one of the status quos proprieties with gusto .....one could return in a hundred years and find [like in a calcified cast system ] absolutly no social change -progress ......in short fuck political correctness and viva la liberdad !
     
  7. lankymidget

    lankymidget Worlds Tallest Dwarf

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    Doesn't it.. I mean, SHOULDN'T it only be libel if it's a blatant lie?

    Fuck a person's reputation! If it's the truth, I'd not think to hard about telling them what I think of what a person is or does, and I'd do that ANYWHERE..

    The Governments of most countries have their own way of insulting people it seems, and people do irrational things like commit suicide because of how we're treated by those elected to make sure we're hey ok...

    .....


    I would never take somebody to court over a comment they made.
     
  8. makno

    makno Senior Member

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    the addiction to litigation is societys self mutilation reified ......if everyone was to slaughter the bitch ass cops balifs n judges ....declare a libertarian social revolution ...burn the land n property titles , and marridge-slavery papers ...and live in the now ...forgetting athority and its trappings .....well , yall just lovin being slaves n masters too much .....forget it .
     
  9. ihmurria

    ihmurria fini

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    I wonder what website this happened on...
     
  10. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    I am surprised that this has not happened more.

    Today many perspective employers use the net to "see" if the person they are even considering hiring has any little red flags attached to them that they might not wish associated with their company. Any head-hunters that I use now to hire through does this as a standard practise.

    Too many people feel that they are very sheltered and have the freedom to say what they wish to under the guise of free speech on the net.

    They do not and the laws are at the point of playing catch up with this century and the net.

    I personally think that if you are going to make a statement that could be in person viewed as either libel or slanderous then you are responsible for being able to prove your statement. Be it either in person or online.
     
  11. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    MySpazz is popular with employers. To check up on employees and possilbe hires. Kids check "Yes" to "Smoke" or "Drink" or post nekkid pics of themselves or "Look at me smoking a doob in my mom's basement!" they may find themselves without a job.

    As for the libel thing, wow, there are a couple of people who could now put my kids though college due to remarks about my character, if I pushed it. Hmmmmmmm......
     
  12. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    I have chosen not to interview people based upon searches. Once they are hired I own the problems. It is then a lawsuit that we could be involved in. Not worth the grief when you know ahead. Not worth the aggravation when there are others to choose from.

    Wow a college fund....... :)
     
  13. Half A Sandwich

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    thats nuts. only dorks use the internet
     
  14. Xac

    Xac Visitor

    Surely this would only apply to peoples real names, For example if some one insulted "Xac" that would be different from insulting me by my real name.
     
  15. makno

    makno Senior Member

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    thought crime ....
     
  16. warmhandedcanadian

    warmhandedcanadian shit storm chaser

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    things are going to continue to get stricter on the net ... they absolutely have to.
     
  17. makno

    makno Senior Member

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    i think we should preemtivly kill every baby at birth ....then they will never do bad things .....there as much a potential threat as cuba n irack
     
  18. warmhandedcanadian

    warmhandedcanadian shit storm chaser

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    what if you dont have the $11 M ?
     
  19. makno

    makno Senior Member

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    you get a judgment on your future earnings and assets ....
     
  20. cerridwen

    cerridwen in stitches

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    Well, there you go. I wonder if the courts expect the person to pay up the $11M?
     
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