Shut Up Fuck You

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by rangerdanger, Oct 11, 2006.

  1. digitalldj

    digitalldj Canucks ftw!

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    Seriously, what is with this huge influx of morons coming to the forums lately??

    first off, out of all the people who posted Ranger is probably the only one who was actually even ALIVE to have an opinion on the matter

    2nd, anyone who says they threw bullets into a fire because they split a bottle of cheap liquor and blazed shouldnt be allowed to live, let alone share an opinion

    3rd, i highly doubt ranger is smoking "bunk weed that looks like dirt" the guy knows what he's doing in the grow department, and has enough experiance to know whats good

    my opinion on the whole matter is this, The only difference between today and in the 60's + 70's is that "Decent" Weed is more plentiful, instead of smoking either kills, or shwag most kids are smoking weed which is nothing special, but gets you pretty high, it's not like with technology comes better weed, all it takes is a good gardener and a couple trial and errors to find what makes good weed, and if you know the right people, you will get that weed.

    and as most of you probably know, i'm not one to quickly defend ranger, but it seems these days you have your core group of good old users, then people coming to bash, or people who come to spread their stupidity
     
  2. hgh238

    hgh238 Member

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    Whoa killer, I think its time for you to take your daily xanax. Its about that time don't you think, huh buddy?
     
  3. seancourt

    seancourt Free Your Mind

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    no he's just proving a good point.
     
  4. smokindude

    smokindude Senior Member

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    HGH, Stfu. Ranger knows more than you will ever know about weed. I hate when people think there all cool and shit by calling eachother "killer" or "killa". Take some HGH(human growth hormones) to grow a pair. Seriously. BTW, your now digitaldj's bitch. As dj said, im not one to stick up for ranger all the time, but this time i feel its neccesary.
     
  5. PsyGrunge

    PsyGrunge Full Fractal Force

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    jack herrer, for one
     
  6. hgh238

    hgh238 Member

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    I'm not gonna continue with this childish arguement. I'm better then that.
     
  7. digitalldj

    digitalldj Canucks ftw!

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    you started it, then you got it shoved down your throat

    you give BC a bad name.
     
  8. PsyGrunge

    PsyGrunge Full Fractal Force

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    not getting involved, don't know where to start or what to say, but lmfao ^^[​IMG]
     
  9. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    I think what makes MORE weed highly potent these days is simply the fact that growers now know how to grow and manicure weed to maximize it's potency.

    Once upon a time (1960s-1970s) they just cut the damn plant down (in Mexico), pressed it with stems, leaves & seeds and sold it like that. It was never trimmed and cured properly and never handled gently, so overall the THC % WAS lower.

    Yes that was usually LOW quality and the first shit you smoked back then.

    However, at the SAME TIME, some of the BEST hashish in the world was starting to flow into the USA (it had been available in Europe & elsewhere for ages). So we had things like Black Afghani, Nepalese Temple Balls, and excellent Moroccan and some decent Lebanese. ALL of these were far more potent than any pot at the time.

    Then came other strains like Acapulco Gold, Colombian, Oxoacan, Michoaucan which all were grown with a bit more attention, a little better trimmed (some of it), and of course it became very popular and was considered a higher grade than commercial Mexican.

    Then there was Thai Stick, followed by the Hawaiian and California strains. What all of these had in common is that they were sensemilla. No seeds. Preventing the females from going to seed insured a higher potency. That yielded the greatest increase in potency the market ever saw.

    Now if you ever got to smoke some Maui Wowee or Puna Butter back in the 70s, YOU KNOW there is nothing better out there, even today! Sweet, pungent, strong and even hallucinogenic. Thai was mind blowing too. Then the Cali strains came, outdoors mostly at first, which were Thai/Afghani crosses (if memory serves me right). These were very potent, sweet & tasty. They could get you just as high as most anything else. It is the superior genetics on these that makes them as good today as they were in the 70s.

    Then came indoor growing. And everyone jumped on that, thinking they could control the growing process and have better yields, faster turn around, higher profits (main concern). These indoor grows are NEVER as sweet, NEVER more potent than the best outdoor, but they are usually the most carefully trimmed, so there is less leaf, hence a higher THC content for what you actually get.

    I have smoked probably hundreds of varieties of weed in my day, and some ARE more potent than others due to genetics and careful trimming. But they don't always taste the best. Those strains that were bred for potency often lack other good qualities.

    But in NO CASE is there a HUGE difference in the potency between the new strains and the old ones, mostly they're just more carefully tended and manicured. If they had done that back in the days of Colombian and sold you Colombian sensemilla, I'm sure it would compete very well with today's top strains.

    Yes, the testing of pot in the old days is NOT like the testing they do today. Much of what they tested had leaves and wasn't even sensemilla.
     
  10. smokindude

    smokindude Senior Member

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    So there isnt ANY strain out there today better than Maui Wowee or Puna Butter? I remember my dad telling me how bomb Maui Wowee was. But my guess would be white widow or something like that grown to perfection would be the best. Damn i want some dank like that now.
     
  11. PsyGrunge

    PsyGrunge Full Fractal Force

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    for a stoner, you clearly haven't lived.
     
  12. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    I would say there are strains as potent, but as every strain has different proportions of the various THC molecules and different terpenoids, they're gonna taste different and have different effects. As to how good they are, personal preference does figure into it.

    So my judgement on those Hawaiian strains is subjective, but given my experience if I'd found anything superior (in flavor or effect) or stronger, I'd have sure as hell known about it! Esp. since I live in Amsterdam for 10 years trying out the best they had there.

    I find the indoor shit usually inferior in flavor, and containing far more adulterants like fungicides and pesticides and chemical fertilizer residues. Of course all that is a result of poor growing techinques. Of course some ppl do grow organically indoors but it's still not "natural" and never as sweet as the same thing outdoors in the sun...

    One thing I must say with the Hawaiian strains is the more you smoke the higher you get with not much of a ceiling unless you smoke it all the time.

    So you can smoke joint after joint & just keep getting higher till you pass out (this happens eventually).
     
  13. pfunk910

    pfunk910 Member

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    Stop telling people to 'grow a pair'. It's getting so annoying.

    -Mike
     
  14. smokindude

    smokindude Senior Member

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    Ive said it in 2 posts out of 1000.


    -smokindude
     
  15. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    Here's my question:


    They are anti-pot, but they have smoked enough over the last couple decades to know whether the potency is stronger or not?

    Bullshit.

    2nd question:

    How do i go about (non-specifics) tracking down a specific strain to try?
    Generally all i know about weed is that the green shit with the bits of red make me feel good and wood and glass pipes are best.

    I get mine mostly from family, so if i want to try something different(especially if i want to try something specific like Maui Wowee, Thai Stick and all that) what do i do?

    Can i ask my guy to get me something specific(like placing an order), or do i need to ask around more?

    It's not like going into a bar and asking for a particular whiskey...
     
  16. PsyGrunge

    PsyGrunge Full Fractal Force

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    that's one too many.
     
  17. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Well unless you're livin' in Amsterdam you don't get to choose (much). Whatever is available is what's happening. Growers are the ones who choose what to grow for whatever reasons. Sometimes they don't even tell you what it is or give it some generic or made up name.

    Some growers also breed and so their strains are likely to be unique and not like anyone else's.

    Best thing: always smell it, eye it and taste it. If you like it fine. If not don't buy it (if you haven't already).

    Actually your question is why so many ppl grow their own anymore. Then you know what you're getting, you're responsible for growing it right, and you get to keep it or share it, and it saves tons of money over the long run. You just gotta get your hands on some good seeds or clones.

    I remember the time I could just walk into a grow shop in Amsterdam look over the various clones they had growing and take a shopping bag full of clones back home on the metro and trams. That was cool. They were only like 5 guilders a piece then - about $2 or $3 for a foot tall clone.
     
  18. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    replied to here: http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198399
     
  19. kennny

    kennny Member

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    digitalldj, let me tell you a little secret rangerdanger is my friend from another marijuanna forum alias (gangaguru) so let me tell you somen this is the 1st time in 2 years that i even disagreed with 1 of his opinions and since im a moron and dont deserve to give my opinion because i threw bullets in a fire when i was appr. 10 to 14 years old and first time i got drunk well you know what if your nose was any browner i would honestly think that you were giving rangerdanger a rim job so keep you f-n nose out of it . and learn to read more thourough before you reply .
     
  20. kennny

    kennny Member

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    ps no offence rangerdanger i just hate brown nosers and people who cant understand that kids do stupid things . maybe his/her kid gonna do somen stupid 1 day and see if he/she digitalldj will tell them they dont deserve to be alive . but my whole point in my opinion on this thread was that people remember the first time they got drunk or high and think it was the best they ever had . my apoligies to the rest of the forum for my filthy mouth towards 1 of your senior members i am also senior member in marijuana passion and so was rangerdanger he is the reason i came into this forum . i guess i missed his bear stories. but thanks for the warm welcome dj. ill keep you in mind the next time i go take a crap.
     

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