E & sexual abuse

Man whats goin on here? ether loads of people been abused or E makes them hallucinate abuse - yet another m8 told me on E that wen he woz a kid his cousin put his big dick in his mouth quite often as a game & it's made him wonder if he's a fag - he now says he isn't but I've seen him look a guys funny. He is the 3rd person 2 talk about being abused on a e - most worse than him although he made mor a fuss about it then them - any1 else had this happen - luckily this sort of thing isnt a bring down on a epill but can c how it woz used in therapy

 

He should go get some therapy, for starters.

It's no surprise that he told you such things while on MDMA; you can tell even complete strangers your darkest secrets. Just one of the consistent effects of the drug.

 

I don't understand, did he say that his brothers gave him esctasy and raped him, or that he told you this while he was on e?

 

yeah I think he is regretting telling us - he's lookin a bit shifty & keeps insisting he's not gay which maks me think he is - not a problem but he should b man enuff 2 admit it

 

Well I think it was that he was on E when he was saying the sexual abuse story and I think it might be true. Because when you are on E you feel the need to say everything that's on your head.. it doesn't matter when was the last time you tought about it.. you just want to expose the real you. That's what happen to me... believe me, I have left some phone messages, that I don't regret because it was exactly what I was thinking.. but It was kinda raw, I felt bad for the person. So E is like the pill of truth or something.

 

yeah I no a couple r 2 getha coz of e they saids it's a truth pill - I hope me m8 sorts his hed out

 

e does lower inhibitions, and when high on it you are much more likely to admit to things that you would otherwise not...in the spirit of trust and love

 

my best friend came out to me when he was on e. he's all out and stuff now but at that point he hadnt told anyone yet. i think he almost regretted telling me at first, but eventually he was happy that he did.

 

As much as there are downsides to e i think it can be so healthy for people sometimes..

I know it helped me come to terms with sooooo many issues and helped me move forward in my life. It lowers your inhibitions, helps u talk about things you never thought you would and opens the door to the potential you.

Taking the drug is not the answer to your problems (i learned that all by myself, go me!) but like i said, it just opens the door..

It sounds like your friend is harbouring a few issues but weather he's gay or not is unimportant, what is important is he's reaching a place where he can talk about it, this will hopefully help him deal with whatever is going on on his head. what he needs just now is a wee bit of support from his friends regardless of the outcome and youll find he'll reach his own conclusions soon enough.

I recon it probably says more about u as a friend. Wasted or not they still trusted u and spoke to you, even when i was wasted and dealing with my own issues i wouldn't have spilled the beans to just anyone.. I know when people lay heavy shit on you it can make you feel bad for them and even bring you right down but dont feel like your obliged to have any answers, sometimes it's good just to have someone listen..

 

Abuse on E is very real.
the first time i had sex i was on ecstasy- and the guy was 30- i was 16, im 17 now. and when i was coming down i felt really sick, i think i had about 3 pills that night but he didnt stop doing what ever he thought he was doing. I thought he was rolling too at first but then realized that he never took any thing and i ended up ... kind of getting raped. Even tho the first time was consentual the second time sure as hell wasnt and i was in pain the next morning. I also gave head for the first time on ecstasy .. that i did on my own, but i still think that i was taken advantage of. And then i was left in the ghetto while the guy that i was rolling with drove away with my car and the guy that he left me with almost raped me. He didnt. I told him he was ruining my roll and i kind of came down a bit and got away.
But any way- i couldnt sleep for months. I felt so bad .. every night id think of all of the shit that people did to me while on my "amazing drug" id get these addrenaline rushes cus id get so mad and i just couldnt go to sleep. Id start crying cus i was so tired but every time id close my eyes those discusting guys would flash in my head. I'm so mad that I put my self thru that and that i was stupid enough to let guys do that kind of shit to me just for 3 hours of happyness. Any way- just thought id share.
oh and i still think about all of that crap at night.. it flashes around in there untill i shoo it away..but its still there just not as vivid as it used to be. I want to do E again, because i guess i do think that it does alot of good.. but it took me 6 months of my life to get my head straight .. i dont know if id risk loosing my self for just that 3 hours....

*becareful you guys.

 

that is so interesting. Thats E for ya

 

From what I understand your experience is somewhat rare, because E is not really a "date rape" drug, although it can make you do things sexually with people that you later regret, because it is a drug that brings feelings of empathy and attachment to others.

Still, it sounds to me like this guy belongs in jail, and your experience would seem to indicate that minors shouldn't have access to every drug. However, I do think there should be decriminalization of psychedelics and other currently illegal drugs.

 

Yep, a good friend of mine used to call E a "diarrhea for the mind" - it can be a hard and long time but you feel so refreshed and released afterwards. I think that´s one of the best descriptions of E I´ve ever heard.

 

Sorry, but I can´t believe this "raped on E" thing.

Lots of studies showed, that even though someone can persuade you more easily to do certain things while you´re under E, you´d never do things you´re strictly against. This means, that you´d only have sex under E with someone you also won´t push away if you were sober.
Even if the part of your brain responsible for criticism is almost out of order while under E, the alarm center (responsible for the handling of really dangerous and threatening situations) still works. So either you weren´t really raped (because in some way - in some very deep region of your brain - you agreed to have sex with that guy), or the E pills you´ve taken did not only contain E, but also some other additives, that may be responsible for your loss of control over the situation.

 

Yea, the flow is right, even if I am rocked out of my skull there are some things I just wouldn't do. But some things that I might be able to be convinced to do when straight, I would jump into with no hesitation with a couple tabs or rolls or whatever.

Nonetheless, whatever happened to you sucks by your description... now you know why a 30 year old feeding a 16 year old some rolls is a bad bad situation. When you do drugs, you meet lots of shady individuals; cardboard cut outs of gutter trash. You just have to try to get to know someone well enough before getting into those kinds of situations.

 

You are right. E makes you feel more attachment to others, but it does not void your free will or turn you into a sex machine, or even (as far as I know) make you pass out so that you are sexually taken advantage of.

In fact, E can make sex for a man difficult if not impossible performance-wise.

 

I don't believe that sex on E is abuse. E produces that effect on people. You want to touch and be sexual. You have to know that on that kind of drug, those things can happen.

Will you regret some of the acts later? Maybe, but it's not rape or sexual abuse. If you don't know that you might do something like that on E, you shouldn't be taking it in the first place. Learn what a drug could make you feel like BEFORE you try it. After that the responsiblity lies within.

 

Oh, yeah! I´ve had my problems with that, too... :&

 

What happened to her can happen with teenagers too. The thing is, it's pretty creepy for a guy who's 30 to be trying to get action from a teenager. Mid-20s may be a different issue, especially if the girl is mature and the guy looks or acts young, but 30 is just odd.

Teenage girls should not be doing drugs with guys that old, in general. Still, I don't think a victim should be blamed for a rape in any circumstance.

 

Ooflyeyes, you are a moron. Saying that a girl who was obviously drugged and raped had it coming to her is the epitome of stupidity. The guy who drugged her and raped her is a fucking felon! What he did, if he had been caught would get him 15 years in the slammer. The girl is clearly having residual issues from that night and you have the insensitivity to say that she deserved it because she was hanging out with a guy who was twice her age! So in your mind if it was a guy who was 16 that drugged her and raped her than she didn't deserve it because she was doing drugs with friends her own age?