Hi All, It's been a while - but I've got a new garden up and runnning; they have only been under the 600w system for 23 days - !!!THAT'S RIGHT 23 DAYS!!! - the lowryder is over 1 and a half feet, and still has 37 days to go (they should max out at 1 foot)! The 4 ice females are over a meter each, I've been using some 'secret' growing techniques that seem to work pretty damn well (Or defy the laws of growing physics...)! Anyway - just to make y'all jelous, I'm interviewing Howard Marks for RedEye magazine in London on Wednesday; sweet! I'll upload more pics when they're in to the flowering stage, I figure another week veg - any more and I won't be able to fit the flowered versions in to the room! Oh, www.entheogenius.com will have our new payment provider up and running, so you don't have to pay by nochex any more! Keep on tokin' ... - Grownuts