FedUpAmerican is Hitler!

But that is exactly what christians do. They say for example that evolutionary theory is wrong, and even mock those who think (on scientific grounds mind you - not on the basis of 'belief') it is correct.
They offend many other groups - gays, women etc, and also rationalists and humanists.
Then there are members of other religions whom they seek to 'convert'.

In other words, christians are very much in the business of telling others what not to believe.

As I said before, I think there's enough christian propagagnda around - more than enough in fact. It's perfect;y acceptable IMO to present the argument from the other side. And the descisions people make are conditioned by information. Perhaps some people just don't think things through properly - so stating the arguments against christianity may help some to begin to think for themselves, and to make their own descisions, rather than having it all dictated by some church or other.

 

Two of these

I meant it as a joke too. Hey, we're all joking here right, even Mussolini.

 

By reading your responses here and some of your other threads, you're not all that great yourself.

 

A bit more of an open mind, maybe?

What you originally wrote about debate skills was also an opinion, I'm just reitterating my own. And it's good to see that you consider yourself to be the only one around who ever has a factual thing to say, because apparently we've all got our heads up our asses. The unfortunate thing is that it seems you believe to be the only one with a fiber of educational enlightment, which would be a little off.

 

I really think that the only person pissing and moaning is you, not so much from others. Granted if I am doing that, it's probably having to deal with reading incredible ignorance and being unable to fathom incredible stupidity, especially from an apparent adult.

 

When you argue with the mentality of a child, you get a childish response. Although if you want a debate, one needs to debate. It's hard to argue with someone who can't contribute a valid thought to a conversation, and therefor the conversation goes nowhere.

 

For someone who seems to hate Christianity so much, you seem to know (or at least pretend to know) quite a bit about it... most people who are somehow anti-religion tend to keep away from it... Have we spent a little too much time in the Rectory as a child? Bad memories? Do we fear men in robes?

 

It just took a couple of minutes on wikipedia before I can produce evidence that Hitler rejected Christianity BEFORE he even came to power!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler's_religious_beliefs

In fact, it even seems like he HATED Christianity. I mean, I guess that's what 'anti-Christian' means... correct me if I'm wrong.

It seems he adopted Christianity only so far as he totally reworked it into something that it actually isn't, probably a political move to appease people who were afraid of electing someone who didn't share their religious beliefs.

Sounds plausible to me.

 

So why don't you show them how much of a better person you are by laughing it off, and not getting angry.

That was my whole point.

 

Never mind.

 

I think that a lot of people have that thinking... 'christians are very much in the business of telling others what not to believe'... well, that's a pretty big generality. Not all Christians impose their religious beliefs on non Christians. There are people of all walks of life who have their opinions about religion or politics, and we all have the right to practice the way we see fit.

The problem is that there are too many people who have a "you're wrong, I'm right, so change your opinion" mentality (like some people in this thread, I wonder who?!?) which makes it hard to carry a conversation with them. But sometimes it's just best to walk away from an argument rather than run it into the ground.

 

really? you seem a bit bitter about things though... I would've never guessed.

 

Just by reading your threads in this forum, and your replies. Some you sound rather agitated, others you post 'fact' which you've probably recall from learning somewhere, but get agitated when asked for your references on that particular information, and yet when others respond you expect them to come up with proof of point. Some replies you can't even give an answer to so your only defense is to type 'LOL' and 'ROFLMAO' or some other nonesense, which can be seen as either ignorance on your part or condescention. Just bitter tones overall, but maybe that's just me.

 

ah, where's all the peace and love.... well, it's hard to get when you redily admit you're at least condescending. The love you put out is the love you get back... if, on the other hand, you put out negative, well, you can't entirely be surprised that you get a negative response.

 

Critical is often perceived as negative. Often what's portrayed is 'I'm trying to proove you wrong somehow with this fact....' or sometimes just the way it's said.

Or you can look at it this way:
1 person = you
Christianity side = thousands of people, or in this forum's case, at least more than 1

"The negativeness comes from the Christianity side first..." is kind of a weird thing to say.... All the Christian people in this forum vs just one forum member. Just smells like the beginning of a conspiracy, don't it?

 

If this is true, then why can't you provide us with any FACTS to prove it?!

LOL!!!!
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!


I am LAUGHING at you!!
Seriously dude, you are making my day!!
You can't even THINK!
Hitler hated Christians!
You hate Christians!
Hitler causes cancer!
YOU CAUSE CANCER!
These are all FACTS!
If not, PROVE ME WRONG!

 

If fed-up were the only one who is critical of christianity, you might have a point. As it is, millions of people have moved beyond the need for primitive belief systems, so fed-up is actually in good company, and certainly represents in general the view of many people. If christians find it hard to cope with criticism, that is their problem.

If you look at the believer/non-believer conflict since the 18th century, when it began to gather force in western civilization, you'll find that 'first blood' was indeed drawn by christians. In fact - it was only because of the growth of secular power, and the loss of power by the churches, that things like witch burning came to an end.
Please try to see that if the christian religion were put fully into practice as many desire, we'd go back to the middle ages.
It is only because of those who have stepped outdside the christian belief system that we are now any further forward - people like Galilleo, Bruno and so on - even Darwin.

 

What is with all this hatemongering!?