Federal Income Tax a Fraud!

Discussion in 'Protest' started by ConsciousSoldier, Oct 29, 2006.

  1. ConsciousSoldier

    ConsciousSoldier Member

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    The Federal Income tax...most people think that this tax is legal and people are required to give up a chunk of their hard-earned wages and labor.

    But the truth is, The Internal Revenue Code, Title 26 of the United States Code, does not state that an unapportioned tax (apportioned means equal) on wages and labor is taxable income. Plainly speaking, there is no law requiring you to pay the Federal Income Tax! (unless you're a government employee, but that's taxing taxes...)

    Obviously, not enough people know about this. I see this issue as the very base of all of our civil liberties, wherein the government taxes us illegally of the daily work we put in for ourselves and for our families. Furthermore, the Federal Income Tax does not go towards A SINGLE GOVERNMENT FUNCTION. It goes straight to the salaries of corporate officials of the private bank that runs just like CitiBank called the Federal Reserve.

    Name one government function (the Federal Reserve is a private bank that controls the American Dollar, it is not a government agency) you think the Income Tax pays for. There isn't one. The CORPORATE Income Tax (taxing the business, not its workers) pays for the military, for example, and highways and roads are payed for by state gasoline taxes.

    I encourage people to see Aaron Russo's movie Freedom To Fascism (located on www.freedomtofascism.com). There you can either buy the DVD, pay for a premium version of the movie on the internet, or see a low-quality (but still quite viewable) version on GoogleVideo (which the website links to).

    Once you've seen the truth of where this country is headed (and who the culprits are), get the message out. Information is the greatest power. Don't let the media and the armed thugs of the IRS bully you.
     
  2. MIIDAJ

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  3. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    Income tax is an issue which needs serious reform, but I don't think a 23% federal sales tax is the solution.
     
  4. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Try not paying it...you'll soon learn that the legislation has mandated it. Folks have cited those same arguments since the sixties and seventies and many of them ended up paying penalties or spending time in jail.
     
  5. YankNBurn

    YankNBurn Owner

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    No Income Tax is a voluntary tax but if you elect to not pay it then that comes with a punishment. Silly yes but then this is the goverment we are dealing with.


    I guess paying bills is volutary too and eating and paying for items when you want them, lol :D
     
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    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&q=aaron+russo

    I see no way to argue with the conclusions of this film as long as it is not a complete fabrication. I am certain that if it were a fabrication it would already be unavailable and the author jailed for slander if not sedition. This is not about paying income tax, this is about the nonexistance of the United States of America, period.
    Tell all the people that you see.....
    There's something happening here.....
    get informed, get angry, take a stand!!!
    sine cera
     
  7. MIIDAJ

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    it taxes consumption, it taxes illegal money, forigners, illegal citizens. It takes away all imbeded taxes which are roughly 23%, so basicly it spreads the tax base.

    It the single most fair way i see of taxing. The redistibution system we have no punishes achievement by taxing it. It takes money from those who earn it and gives it to thoses who dont, which i believe many people here would support anyhow.

    as a libertarian, i do not support the current bloated system.

    Discuss.
     
  8. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    I doubt poor people could afford to pay nearly a quarter of the sale price extra on everything they buy. So at 23%, if you buy groceries to feed your family at $50, it actually costs you $61.50, that's an extra $11.50 that could be going for extra groceries, or extra fuel oil to heat the house in winter. With that kind of senario, it actually becomes a poor people's tax.

    Then you would still have the state tax on top of it. In my state and WV the next state over, the sales tax is 6%, Wv also has a food tax which I don't remeber the percentage amount of right now, But that even more money going to government instead of staying in the pockets of the virtually penniless were it belongs.

    To sum it all up, what I'm saying is that it will negatively effect the poor and not effect the rich. To me it doesn't seem like a fair tax at all.
     
  9. MIIDAJ

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    woodsman take the income tax and the imbedded taxes off the food which reduces the price roughly the same amount as the 23% tax and its a wash. The main agenda is to widen the tax base.

    The idea will never pass, it is too easy to bash the idea such at the above post. too many people are uneducated on the issue and can be too easily swayed by big govt/socialist agendas.

    It taxes alot of money which wouldnt normally be taxed. Thats why it is a fair tax.
     
  10. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    So what you are telling me is that the people pay more anyway. How does that help the common man? I'm sure somebody on here has a big government / socialist agenda, but it certainly isn't me.
     
  11. Gizzee

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  12. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    Couldn't open the page. What do these "give me liberty" guys stand for?
     
  13. Gizzee

    Gizzee Member

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    USDC Case # 04CV01211[​IMG]

    The Lawsuit To Restore
    Constitutional Order

    OBJECTIVE: Reclaim Popular Sovereignty by Enforcing
    The "Long-Forgotten" First Amendment Right To Petition



    Please keep trying to go to this website. I can connect just fine. There's years worth of info there on the struggle to get government to respond to legal questions regarding many constitutional issues. Keep trying to connect! www.givemeliberty.org



     
  14. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    The page opened fine this time around. It could have been a glitch on their server or some technical problem on my end of the wire last time, these things happen every now and then.

    Anyway,Thanks for the info, Gizzee. I appreciate your response.
     
  15. Gizzee

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    I'm glad you were able to finally access the site. This organization is the inspiration that lead Aaron Russo to produce his film:

    http://freedomtofascism.com

    You can watch if online now. Hope you will check it out.
     
  16. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    I've heard of the Freedom to Fascism movie. I would like to see it, but watching a movie online may be a problem with my dial-up connection.

    I'll probably order the DVD soon. I am very interested to see what the buzz around this film is all about.
     

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