Okay, I'm back fulltime now hopefully. I had a bunch of family stuff come up all of the sudden and I kind of ignored this topic, I had too much other stuff on my mind that I had not expected. But now that is all done (hopefully). I'm going to pm skip tomorrow and ask him about setting this up.
I'm still waiting to see what's going on with this myself. Skip got in touch with me about it a few weeks ago and I replied saying I was still ready to do it but nothing so far. So guess he's just kinda busy right now. hopefully it won't be too much longer.
Hello Everyone - Bad news. Due to one of us who called themselves a Christian harassing Skip about the membergroup and other things, Skip is no longer going to create the membergroup. So the Christian-only membergroup is out. Sorry! Let this be a lesson to be more respectful towards those you don't agree with. I was honestly quite apalled at the behavior of a supposed fellow Christian towards Skip and others, when I saw the incident in question that made for the membergroup to be not an option anymore.
Let me guess...was this person recently banned? If it's who I'm thinking about, his nasty but no longer present behavior ought not to be a reason to deny you the membergroup.
I'm real sorry to hear that. I was looking forward to it. But, why should comments made by someone else reflect on you or a whole group in general? I don't get it. I can't see why people have to be disrespectful and all but it shouldn't fall back on all of us either.
Yeah, I know. But that's how Skip rolls. He's the admin, so there's not much we can do about it. At the same time, I understand - He has to be tough when he runs a forum with this many members on it I guess. Spook - Yes the person I was referring to was banned.
dear bree i am a christian maybe you can help me out with two questions. 1. why are we christians in this forum? the reason i came here was because i needed advice on how to maintain my dreads. i am now looking around on this site. its very interesting, but its also kind of hippie-ish. there are so many forums for drugs, free love etc. i however do like this forum because it kind of promotes respect and tolerance and not disrespect and be-littling like in all other forums. 2. if non-christians cant talk on a christian forum then whats the point of doing such a forum? Christ says that we should tell other people (like non believers) about the gospel. He never said that it is going to be easy-to the contrary he said that we will be hated and even persecuted because of him(Christ)-but that is what Christ is asking from us. I think there are also benefits from listening to non-believers questioning and chriticising us: non Christians force us to ask ourselvs this question over and over again: why are we Christians and what do we exactly mean when we say that we are greatfull that Jesus died on the cross for us?
That's pretty hypocrtical admin skills on a free speech forum, every forum in this place is loaded with dumbasses but they still exist.
I think you're all right. Maybe it wasn't such a good idea to make it exclusively Christians, but, instead make some rules about not making nasty remarks no matter what religion ( or lack of ) people choose. Bree, do you think it would work out better that way? rak is right about the fact that The Lord doesn't want us to be segregated from non Christians. On the other hand, people shouldn't be nasty towards us because we are Christians. I have Muslim, Catholic, Jewish, and many other religions among my friends and we all know what we believe. We can discuss it without hostility or judgement. Yes, us Christians are hoping of all hope that we can help convert. Think about it. They're probably hoping the same thing. My beliefs will never be changed. I can't be shaken like a reed. If our faith is strong enough we don't have to worry about others wanting to cahnge the way we think. If we can all be civil we could still have your dream group and let non Christians participate as well. I'd still love to be part of it if Skip changes his mind or rules are changed. Let me know. Later.....
It wasn't for segregation purposes. The Christianity forum is the place for Christianity to be discussed, preferrably diplomatically and politely (though that rarely happens here), and for Christians to share the light with others. The membergroup was going to be so that there was a place for those of us to come to our Christian brothers and sisters (As well as Christian-friendly friends) and be able to say something like "Please pray for my grandfather, he's really sick and dying" without some Christian basher invading the thread and saying something mean and unecessary like "Don't you know God isn't real? Praying doesn't work. Your Grandpa is dying because all his cells are old. Grow up and get over it". I had a personal forum here on hipforums for a number of years that was just such that. It was a wonderful place of support and love for fellow Christians. It was also for non-Christians, but they had to be Christian-friendly - in other words, polite. We had several of those too, and they were even able to share their different beliefs and question us about ours in a respectful, diplomatic way. The Christians in the forum responded in kind to the non-Christians. There was none of the crap that you see on the Christianity forum. It was really nice. Then people started coming in and harassing us, thus turning it into a twin of Christianity. No one felt safe to discuss their beliefs. If we wanted our prayer requests or questions about the Bible ripped apart by non-believers, whose opinions we didn't want in the first place, we would have posted it in the Christianity forum. It's not just a matter of faith being shaken, for the most part, most of us wouldn't have been shaken anyway. It's just tiresome and hurtful to deal with harassment constantly, when we weren't even out to bother anyone, but simply wanted love and support. So then the forum had to go private with a password. It helped a lot to make it a haven, but it also made it difficult for new members. Eventually the place died out, so I had it closed and deleted. But for the longest time, it was a wonderful place for us until disrespectful people ruined it, and I guess with the member group I was hoping for a rebirth of that kind of place, because with the membergroup it would have been a lot easier to let new people in and be able to revoke membership to the group if they were constantly disrespectful, and redirect them to the forum that kind of thing is appropriate in, here, the Christianity forum. So to answer your question, it would be nice if rules were set in place to make people be a little nicer here in the Christianity forum, but that is not what hipforums is about. Hipforums is about free speech, and the Christianity forum is not and has never been exclusively for Christians, but a place to discuss Christianity, good and bad. That combined with free speech means that those who come to post on Hipforums have a right to post whatever they want, as long as it's not a personal attack. That means that they ARE allowed to attack a generalized group of people, in this case, Christians. That's just how it is. So on this particular forum, we can't impose rules that everyone be nice to Christians because that would be hindering free speech. Some people feel very strongly against Christianity and have every right to express that and fulfill the need to do so. It's just unfortunate that so many people feel the need to be mean while doing so. It's equally unfortunate that there are some Christians out there giving us all a bad name and causing horrible experiences for some people, causing them to feel the need to lash out at Christians here.
Listen... I didn't mean that YOU were segregating. I just meant that maybe Skip would change his mind if we made him understand that's not what we were trying to do. I totally understand now. Thank you for the explaination. Free speech is important and it is such a shame we can't all get along without some bashers ruiming it. I don't have much time at the moment but I will pm you later about the situation and what we might be able to do. I have some ideas. For now, know that my prayers will certainly be with both you and your dad and that God still has everything under control even when it doesn't seem that way. Love and peace to you sister. Sherry
It's not looking good for the new forum Edna. I haven't heard from Bree for about a week or 2 now but it sounds to me like Skip is definitely against it. Maybe she can try another idea or something. Hoping to hear from her soon so we can know for sure if it's out of the question or still a possibility.