I was transporting cuttings of a datura plant in a sealed box in plastic that contains about 1/4 of waters in it to keep moisture. The cuts had big leafs because it was a big adult datura plant. They've been in the box for 6 hours and brew much of the time because they were in my backsack. When I finally got home to plant those cuts the water that was left was kinda tainted in white and smelly. The Datura plant on wich I took cuts never been shooted wich chemicals or somethings. Was this poison? and is it an oral way to consume it? I was not sure about it that's why I decided to not drink it.
Oh and I was wondering too about the trips reports on Erowid and lot of em ended up badly because they was trick by Datura because they think that the dose they take before wasn't going to make them high until thet get in a very weird trance. If you just wanna lay down and enjoy vivid and colorful dreams; eating 5 seeds or max 10 would be okay? So I won't end up like them having such bad trips.
dude I know it's dangerous, everyone keep saying it. Drugs are dangerous. I was asking questions and I'd like them to have a reply that answer me much more than Datura is dangerous... blabla. I didn't ask if datura was cool. Everyone keep telling this, we do know. That doesn't help me at all.
no, but out of drugs, datura is seriously not good. its not a recreational drug. not because of its honest to god toxicity, not because the MASSIVE ammounts of braincells you're killing, but just because if you're looking to datura just to have good dreams or see pretty colors, you arent doing it for the right reasons. datura will fuck your shit up, man. read carlos castaneada's The Teachings of Don Juan. when you take datura, there is no such thing as a 'good trip'. not in the sense that you see it. but to answer your question: i dunno. read the teachings of don juan.
Datura is definatly not a recreation and or visionary drug. I've seen a couple people trip on it, it's scary to watch and they remained in a haze for weeks afterwards. There are no pretty psycadelic colors to look at, no deep introspective thoughts. Just alot of hallucinations that look very very real. The user never seems to know that they are hallucinating, wind up having conversations with people that are not there, hiding from spiders that don't exsist, smoking invisible cigarettes... /Don't see the attraction
there was probably a "usable" amount of alkaloids from the plant cuttings that leached into the water... as to "poison" - well, dose makes the poison now, doesn't it? but the amount in the water (it does sorta smell funny sometimes) probably wouldn't have been enough to put you in the hopsital... oral dosing with datura alkaloids works just fine - but controlling the tatal dose can be tricky unless you are very familiar with the plant you are working with... topical application ("flying ointments") can be even trickier... & smoking the stuff is a very easy way to control the dose (when you can't figure out how to light the datura joint, well - you've probably had enough, eh?) - but the effects are not quite the same as eating it (or as rubbing it on your skin i suppose) - there used to be an OTC with Datura stramonium called "asthmador" ...
Datura, Jimson Weed, Devil's Weed - a powerful substance that no person should ever have to harness mentally. It will punish you feverently and without sympathy for treading into its territory. It will laugh as it blends the terrors of your imagination with your everyday life. It is complete delerium. A momentary detachment from all that is real and true (at least how we perceive such things). If you're able to stay concious and remember the experience, you will not be able to distinguish between your fabricated projections and the solid world that dominates our every day lives. It is brutal enlightenment. ... if you are to truly be punished by her, then it will control your mind, body and soul. You will awaken bruised, cut, battered and confused. Worst of all, you'll not even be able to recall the things it showed you. Most likely some very important things, too. Do not try Datura unless you are willing to take responsibility for the most intense and unexpected actions of your person. Do not take it unless you are prepared for the utter intensity of the void. Do not take it unless you are willing to risk leaving this place forever. Being an experienced tripper and having done most hallucinatory substances, I decided I would take that risk. It was foolish. The experience was intense and horrifying. Every word you're about to read here is as true as I can recall it. The most miraculous thing of all being that I came out of her grasp without much damage. On a normal summer afternoon, the seeds were aquired. I ate three big ones. The friend who accompanied me was going to trip along, but we both decided that one should sit, being that this was unknown territory. He gave me the honor of tripping since I was a bit more experienced. Within 15 minutes I felt physically devastated. My mouth was dry, my muscles were tense and sore and my stomach was nervous. There was no feeling in my head (no headache or anything) and it seemed suprisingly clear, though I felt drunk and incompetent. 'Dude, I'm going to close my eyes and go to sleep.' I said as I drifted off. 'Uh, ok.' Replied my friend. His voice seemed stretched, deep. I went into a lucid dream state. This is what followed: I was laying down in a room, choking a black cat. It thrashed and screamed. Its eyes were protruding from its skull. It fought back by clawing at my arms and face. After it died, I was absorbed by an intense thirst. I got up from where I was laying and found this deep well that was built out of metal. It's hard to explain the actual contraption, but it was shiny and new. The water within was clear and cold. I drank and drank from the well, but it could not quench my thirst. I turn around and there's a faucet spilling more precious cold water into a drain. I put my lips to it and drank like a wild animal - but it still could not quench my thirst. Then I was surrounded by water. But none of it could satisfy me. I was gong to die of dehyrdration despite vast resources... I panicked. Bang. My eyes opened, sort of. I was laying on the couch (not my original place of rest) and my friend was gone. When I woke, I heard stomping. Big heavy boots walking around behind me. Through the kitchen, into the bathroom. Whoever it was, they walked like a herd of buffalo. Doors opened, slammed, opened, slammed. The windows started to bulge in and out with a deep croaking moaning noise. An illogical thought entered my mind - the nukes were dropped, and this is what ground zero is like. I got up from the couch. Fell on my face. Struggled to stand again. God damn, I was thirsty. Perhaps the dream I had was telling me to wake up and drink. I clawed my way to the sink, turned on the faucet and drank. At this point, I didn't care if it was tap water. After bloating my stomach with liquid, I looked stupidly around me. This was not the room I was in before. Where the hell was my friend? The stomping came again, and I looked behind me. Through the window I saw a shadow of a person. Many people, actually. They were pressing the glass inward, like it was flexible but liquid. More stomping. What the fuck is that? I run around the strange apartment, chasing after who was walking around. I'd follow it into a room, but then it would be in another room when I thought I caught him / her / it. I walk into the main room again, and there's a dead cat in the middle of the floor. Strangled. I freak. Did I do this? Certainly not. The cat I strangled was black. This is a tabby. The steps approached from behind. I turn. There's a dead man standing behind me. His mantra becomes enveloped in melancholy as he repeats it: 'you killed my cat you killed my cat you killed my cat you killed my cat...' deeper and deeper into despair. Skip ahead. I awaken at the bottom of some stairs, broken arm. I know I'm awake, but i'm still hallucinating. It's horrible. Insects, perspective shifting, strange ghosts about... My friend left me alone. I scared him with my delerium. Supposedly, the straw that broke his back was when I said: 'This is the new inquisition. I am here to inquire and cause pain. Now lay down and die.' I noticed that I was laying on the steps of an apartment about a block from my friends. Supposedly, I had been ripping at this persons door telling them to let me out of the 'endless square'. They had struggled with me and in my stupor I had fallen down the stairs. The ambulance was called, the police were called - and the rest is pretty self-explanatory. Luckily, most authority figures in my life were understanding of my forays. They expressed sympathy and were simply glad that I was alive. I apologized to my friend for frightening him, but quickly relieved him of any further sitting duties. I do not regret my experience. Stil also trying to figure out what my brain was going through. Everything seemed so important but so encrypted. I was scared, but I still feel that the experience was a good lesson for me. This drug is a battlefield of the mind and body. Do not even attempt to try it unless you're 100% ready to deal with the consequences. Be safe. Be careful. Tap the void.
damn man..i'm glad ya survived..your aunt or someone posted some scary shit i gotta ask though, were any cats actualy harmed in the making of this nightmare?
okay this is why people die from datura, you ate 3 seeds.... i would eat about 100 to get a dry mouth and start chasing the invisible friend.... but it depends on the plant... to whoever posted this.... i say eat the devils weed. but it IS called devils eed for a good reason you know. after eating it for 11 days i kept repeating to my friends "CURSE THE DEVILS SEED!" and shit... but what i was going to suggest is start with a REALLY low dose. like lets say 1 seed? i would start with 10.... half an hour later eat another 1-10 seeds. and keep repeating that until your mouth gets dry.... and dont forget to chew them.... and DONT eat too much..i can see how smoking invisible cigarettes and chasing invisible people (and killing invisible cats) could SOUND like fun.... but its not. respect the plant, and she might in turn respect you
acidconcept.. why are you even teling them to take it.. ya say ya can die..yasay its not fun.. then ya say sure eat em? why dont ya write a how to commit suicide manual instead?
Jimson weed is a terrible drug to get into. It is very toxic and you can go nuts for hours on end... You aren't dealing with an active ingrediant here, you're dealing with toxins from the plant that make you delerious for a number of hours. Usually you see people and things that aren't there that usually seem to intend harm on you or loved ones (like skitzofrenia). You may also end up in the hospital because of a bad dose. Be wise, don't consume jimson.
okay honestly i DO understand that by encouraging these kids to do it..... that half of them will die. But it sounds like fun for some reason to most people. Yeah nobody EVER listens to the majority of the people on the internet that tell them that Jweed will kill you. Ive just done it so many times.
IF YOUR ARE GOING TO DO DATURA, EVEN WHEN I'M SAYING DONT DO IT. DONT DO IT IM NOT IN ANY WAY SAYING DO THIS. BUT IF YOUR A COMPLETE FUCKING RETARD GO EAT 30 25mg PILLS OF BENADRYL AND THEN SEE IF YOU WANT TO DO DATURA. THE 30 PILLS OF BENADRYL WILL BE EXACTLY LIKE DATURA AND WILL NOT BE AS INTENSE AND WONT LAST AS LONG. BUT SERIOUSLY IF YOU MUST ABSOLUTLY TRY THIS DRUG I WARN YOU. YOU WILL REGRET THIS SHIT. YOU WILL WALK AND TALK WITH THE DEAD-----IF YOUR HAVING A GOOD TRIP---SERIOUSLY MAN THATS ABOUT AS GOOD AS THE TRIP WILL GET-----AS IN IT SUCKS BALLS, ITS SCARY AS HELL, THINGS ARE THERE FOR ONE MINUTE THE NEXT THEY ARE GONE, THEY ARE VIVIDLY REALY, PLEASE IF YOU ARE NOW THINKING THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO TAKE IT STOP READING THIS AND GO DO SOME ACID. IF YOU ARE STILL READING THIS YOUR ARE A FUCKIN DUMBASS SERIOUSLY THIS SHIT IS FUCKEN HORRIBLE YOU WILL HAVE THE WORST TRIP OF YOUR LIFE GUARNTEED DONT LISTEN TO ANYONE THAT SAYS OTHERWISE. YOU WILL BE INSANE, YOU WILL BE LUCKY IF YOU DONT STAY THAT WAY. YOU WILL BE LUCKY IF YOU DONT GET YOURSELF HURT. IF YOU ARE DOING IT YOU WILL NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE WITH YOU AT ALL TIMES AND THAT ALSO COULD EASILY KNOCK YOU OUT IF NEEDED. DATURA= MISERY, PAIN, HORROR, TERROR, BAD, DEVIL, HELL, EVIL, WICKED, DESPAIR, SHOULD I GO ON. NOW DO YOU THINK YOU WANT TO EAT THIS SHIT. IF YOU DO YOU MIGHT AS WELL GO AND EAT THE DATURA CAUSE YOUR SO RETARDED IT PROBABLY COULDNT MAKE YOU MORE STUPID. DONT DO IT.
