Why is the pope trying to upset muslims?

Same for. In Novgorod Oblast have saying: If horse wears overcoat, let horse wear overcoat.



Beat self,


Stoshowik



p.s. If Horse Wears Overcoat, Let Horse Wear Overcoat.

 

Jihad is an Arabic word that means "striving in the way of God." It is only lately that it has found it's way into current jargon as a "violent holy war".

If things don't change we may see "democracy" seen in the same light. I for one had no idea that by invading Iraq the US's main motive was spreading democracy, I don't think if that had been the main motive in the beginning that the congress could have approved our action. Perhaps that's why WMD was foisted on the US public.

 

So Tell Me:

When The Cardnial of New York spoke out against abortion and the death penalty, did feminists storm and burn St. Patricks Cathedral ?

When Ronnie Regan postponed funding for AIDS, did the afflicted victims storm and burn the white house?

When Pres Clinton ended welfare, did the recipients threaten to assinate him ?

 

^^^But you seem to think that all Muslims are out to get you. The problem with a lot of American's is they see one Muslim act a damn fool and they think they're all out to get them, which isn't true.
It’s not the religion, it’s a few people from a fucked up extremist organization. They have many extremists here in America as well, and sightings the Waco Texas incident I can tell you they’re not all Islamic.

People are fucked up creatures, but stuff such as racism and stereotypes fuelled by one persons evil can fuck a whole group of people over.

 

gardener read some books
jihad as always been violent go back to mohammed who fought about 80 battles and crucified and tortured people .

find me this peaceful mythical islam
a film you should watch if your not narrow minded is islam what the west needs to know

in the koran there is a command to fight people until there is no god worshipped but allah thats in sura 9 which is the last sura to be revealed and therefore in force today and forever

 

...y is there a pope in the first place, y are there any "leaders"?
if he's such a christly person than y doesn't he leave the muslims alone.

 

Do the Muslims leave Christians alone, Muslims are persecuting Christians all over the world they are crucifying Christian children no one gives a damn and if Christ was alive if he saw widespread violence and oppression would he be silent about it as you seem to want the pope to be ….shame on you

the top shia cleric on earth on his website as of today that’s ayatollah sistani has a list of ritually unclean things and one of them is kafir its there with shit and pigs, so if you sit on a seat that a non Muslim has sat you need to have a ritual bath .

hear any complaints about that

there is no freedom of religion in Islam

Islamic Group Beheads Assyrian Priest, Crucifies 14 Year Old Boy in North Iraq
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Posted GMT 10-12-2006 5:46:56
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Mosul, Iraq (AINA) --

On Monday, October 9, a prominent Assyrian (also known as Chaldean and Syriac) priest, Fr. Paulos Iskander (Paul Alexander), was kidnapped by an unknown Islamic group. His ransom was posted at either $250,000 or $350,000. This group had demanded that signs be posted once again on his church apologizing for the Pope's remarks as a condition for negotiations to begin.

Father Alexander was beheaded on Wednesday.

An email from a priest in Sweden, Adris Hanna, describes the Muslim terror campaign against the Christians in Iraq:

The Syriac-Orhtodox priest Paulos Iskandar was kidnapped this Monday, October 9, and beheaded today Wednesday October 11.

The Bishop in Mosul wrote me an email tonight and told me that the funeral will be held in Mosul tomorrow.

Christians are living a terrified life in Mosul and Baghdad. Several priests have been kidnapped, girls are being raped and murdered and a couple of days ago a fourteen year old boy was crucified in the Christian neighborhood Albasra.

I have also spoken to a group of nuns that were robbed and treated brutally on their way between Baghdad to Amman in Jordan.

The murder of father Paulus is the final blow for Christians, and now only hell is expected for the Christians of Iraq.

We the oriental Christians in Sweden and the rest of the Western world must protest against the genocide. We must do what we can to stop the rape, threats, hatred, robberies, murders… We must do something.

These latest murders continue an escalating pattern (1, 2, 3) of attacks against Iraq's Christians. On October fourth a bomb ripped through an Assyrian neighorhood, killing 9 (AINA 10-11-2006).


http://www.aina.org/news/20061012004656.htm

 

I think a dialogue has to be started about Islamic violence and religious violence in general. So far, the pope is the only one I see who is trying to do that.

 

It’s all religion, and it’s all bad… well, some more so than others….



As long a so many humans insist on wasting their time and energy into worshipping racist old books written by primitive man to control man then this world will continue to be a war torn hellhole and the evolution of our civilization will stagnate and fall apart.



Religion is a disease of the human mind, born originally from necessity to survive and give meaning and hope in a life of work and suffering in a harsh and brutal primitive world. The problem is that most humans today still live in very harsh impoverished conditions and the diluted reality that religion offers is an essential part of maintaining a functional, yet delusional individual. Take away their religion and what other placebo will they need to survive and thwart reality?



So why does this religion lead to fanaticism and violence. Well the whole point of religion is really narcissistic self justification and denial from the grim reality of mortality. Add that to other human traits that exist in all races such as greed, distrust and pack mentality. All developed in primitive man as survival instincts. Add all those things into the mix of hormone soup that is the human mind and you have yourself a walking hate machine.



There are extremists in all races and religions, but are they proportional? I think the harsher the living environment, the more extreme the religious “pill” becomes as the need to dull reality is greater. The Middle East is a very harsh environment and this would explain why religion appears to be more influential to those people. You can barely compare the western culture religious beside the Islamic. When someone is praying to THEIR GOD 5 times a day, and the only thing in the world that they answer to is THEIR GOD, they are a very dangerous force to cross paths with. If religion is a path to disillusionment, then fanaticism is a path to insanity. There is no reasoning with insanity, and there is no reasoning with any man who prays to the God in his head 5 times a day.



If we have anything in common with each other is that we are all delusional, “I reject your reality and substitute my own”. I love that line because it is so true. It all comes down to the fact that we all see and hear and believe only what we want because the reality of this 14 Billion year old Planet is too brutal, illusive and complex for any one brain to possibly manage. And when I say 14 Billion year old planet, I say that as the truth that my individual brain has decided to accept. Another truth of this world that I believe to be true is that if I spoke such opinions as I have just done I would be killed or at least outcast in the vast majority of the world’s cultures that exist today.

 

It’s all religion, and it’s all bad… well, some more so than others….


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We all have the capacity to move beyond moral equivalence
using our sense of discernment to identify current perpitrators of violence.

in the jihad culture, war is normal, natural and noble. Nobody on this board thinks the way they do.
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OK, the Pope is a dick. George Bush is a dick. are Americans burning down
the WhiteHouse?

How convient to hae the Pope as a scapegoat for your own internal misery.


:sunglasse

 

Islam does not translate directly to Jihad. That would be like interpreting all christians as holy crusaders bent on destroying all "heathen" infidels. Is that how you would like to be seen.

All forms of organized religion appeal to the masses, becauses it promises a from of elitisim...I am better than you are mindset. I'll achieve nirvana, you'll waste in hell kind of thinking. Guess what... we all live, we all die. That's the one big truth that all life forms hold in common. No one can buy a place in heaven, because no one can prove there is such a plane or sphere of existence.

Thank god! Because, it would probably be run by Republicans at the moment.

 

This should be a poll.

 

Whatever happened to freespeech?

 

Its Here But What Happened To Responsibility For The Actions Of Those Who Can Cause War With Their Words???????
People who die in wars never elected the pope what right does he have to make political statements that embroil nation states in war to defend his view?

sodomised !!

 

The Pope came out as against the dealth penalty for Saddam Hussein.




:behead:

 

Politicaly prudent of the west since now we have backed saddam into this position:
appeal and that means you accept our jusrisdiction
or else
we will show mercy in which case we vindicate ourselves

 

To be really fair, you have to put your self in the mouslims shoe

1. Why should he use that person's pharse, to prove what ?
2. what was your re-action concerning the Davnci code ?
3. and why in hell should any body make cartoons of some other religion.

Would you like that to happen to your religion ?

I think it was none religious at all from the Pope, and if he thinks that was it, he must be treated. Plus the timing issue ofcourse.