Abortion

Discussion in 'Protest' started by MaximusXXX, Oct 26, 2006.

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  1. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    Here's another question I want to ask about abortion, if a friend of yours was thinking of getting an abortion, would you encourage or discourage? If she asked you your opinion and you stayed neautral and told it was up to her and she still insisted on getting advice from you, waht would you do, encourage or discourage?

    Think about it please.
     
  2. FreakerSoup

    FreakerSoup Stranger

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    Ok, that's about the stupidest argument I've heard in a long time. Yes, if every single woman on the face of the planet decided not to have kids (having kids is often not a decision, by the way), humanity would die. The logical statement to follow that would be "Therefore, at least a decent portion of woman should have kids." And they do. You've demonstrated a lack of logic, a lack of understanding, and a lack of concern for the stresses endured during gestation and birth. Good job.

    I am pro-choice because there's no danger of humanity dieing out, many moms and families can't support kids, and I do not equate a fetus with a child. You say that one in 10000 aborted fetuses may have been a genius, but you're wrong. Fetuses are not intelligent. Until birth, the fetus is pretty much a parasite living off the nutrients from the mother while in a coma. To be blunt.

    If I had gotten a girl pregnant at this point in my life, I would of course leave the decision up to her, but strongly encourage her every chance I got to get an abortion, because I am not ready, financially, emotionally, or in any other way but physically, to be a father, and I do not agree with your policy of have the kid and hope someone else will give a loving home.

    And I'm gonna put the spam smiley here, 'cause it's just sitting there, smiling at me: :spam:
     
  3. Advaya

    Advaya Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I would council her on the pro's and con's of continuing the pregnancy or aborting it and leave the decisions up to her... because it's her choice. It honestly would not make a difference to me which she chose as long as she made the best choice for herself.

    There is no use in argueing with these people though, but I have to say that most of the midwives and women's health counselors I've spoken to (I'm a student midwife) support a woman's right to choose. Don't you think they understand human development better than you?
     
  4. ElChivato

    ElChivato SeNioR MeMBeR

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    I believe that abortion is a woman's choice, i don't really approve of it at all, but it's their own thing to deal with. but i would never have one.
     
  5. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    Both my parents are doctors and strongly against abortion, they tell me that medically it's not a wise choice to make simply because there is a high risk of developing some kind of negative side effect from it. Also, everyone has a bias.
     
  6. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    You're a very horrible person. That's all I can say.
     
  7. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    It seems no one has responded to my story, maybe because it was at the very end of a page. So here it is again posted above. I hope you think about that and the fact that abortion is cold blooded murder and that we were all fetuses once, or as someone put it leaches.
     
  8. Advaya

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    Because they feel they made the right decision and don't see why they should feel remorseful? Would you feel remorseful over something that you didn't feel was wrong?

    "Both my parents are doctors and strongly against abortion, they tell me that medically it's not a wise choice to make simply because there is a high risk of developing some kind of negative side effect from it."

    Care to elaborate? The only health side effect would be repeated dilation of the cervix, but that's even up in the air as to if it would effect future dilation/incompetent cervix.

    And even though I was once a zygot/embryo/fetus it would not have mattered to me if my mother had choosen to abort me, because I would not be here! I absolutely love my life, and still feel that way.
     
  9. FreakerSoup

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    Let me tell you why you're wrong. My supporting aborting in a partner of mine would not only destroy nothing more than an unconcious pre-human being, but it would save that fetus from becoming a child in a terrible situation. I don't own my own place, I'm not financially independent, and could not support a girlfriend/wife and a child in any reasonable way.

    You're the one who would propose to add more children to the long line for adoptions and sacrifice a mother to have a chance of a successful birth. I would suggest that in my scenario I support the termination of a fetus that doesn't care either way and has no feelings or knowledge of the event, and you, in your scenario, support the termination of the life of a concious, knowledgable, caring, and loved person. Someone who I'm willing to bet would be pretty horrified by your position. Sooo...think that over a bit, and maybe you can see why so many would apply your statement above to you. And while you're at it, you can respond to a little more than one statement in my last post.
     
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    Death should never be considered a solution for the problems in life!
    It's better to live!


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  11. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Perhaps women should have the alternative right to mandate vasectomies. How would you pro lifers feel about that. No life is sacrificed, but the prevention of unwanted pregnancies is promoted by those that know which fathers accept responsibility for the transmission of their sperm....the potential mothers of unwanted children.
     
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    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    It is a scarey scarey thing when a government can tell you what to do with your body. It should be a WOMAN's choice!
     
  14. MaximusXXX

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    You're a hypocrite, you're saying that you once were basically nothing and that you would have had no problem if your head was detached from your body, or if your brain was sucked out by a hose or your little body scrambled to pieces. Also, you're 21, I doubt you have absolutely nothing to offer, you do realise the government can offer support right?
     
  15. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    I support no religion, I'm just an individual who believes that there should exist a good reason for death. For instance, a man raped a 13 year old girl and was shot for it, or a man developed a powerful tumour which lead to his death.

    To kill for convenience is so selfish I can't even comprehend how one can do so.
     
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    The adult pregnancy rate associated with rape is estimated to be 4.7%. This information, in conjunction with estimates based on US census, suggest that there may be 32,104 annual rape related pregnancies among American women over the age of 18.---Hope for healing .org. Victims should get EC treatment to prevent pregnancy where available. ( Emergency Contraception)

    The annual abortion rate in the US is 1.37 million abortions per year. (1996)

    Abortion on demand, it's irresponsible. Abortion stats go to www.cbrinfo.org/Resources/fastfacts.html


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  17. MaximusXXX

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    If I was a guy who did not wish to have any children then I'd pretty much have to get a vasectomy, that is if my wife or girlfriend didn't want any children either. There's no harm in that, moral birth control is also fine with me, it's the fact that life has already begun and you kill it that's wrong.
     
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    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    Did you know that most rape is not reported, due to the fact that it can be very hard to prove.

    also do not use your prolife propaganda sites to try and prove a point.

    And you never did answer my Vietnam question.
     
  20. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    So pro-choice propaganda is.......what?
     
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