are you voting?

It is said that young adults may turn out in record numbers to vote on the 7th.

I think this is a positive sign that our country may not be lost.

Hopefully everyone does there research and votes for the right canidates. this could be one of the most important dates in this young countries history.

so are you going to vote? make your voice heard!

 

undecided but if i do it will absolutely be absentee vote
yea i probably will

 

No!

 

vote for what? (am joking.. i get detroit tv and minnesota tv so I've heard all the lovely smear campaigns)

I voted for a new mayor last week in my city of 10,000... the guy I voted for lost, as usual. Now we have a chick for a mayor who is a total conservative boob, and she will likely cost the city over a million dollars because she doesn't want a bunch of Chinese people coming to the city. Its a long story and would probably be as boring for you as your election is to me....

 

Im going to vote... basically because I hate republicans and espiecially Rick fucking Santorum soooo bad that I HAVE to try to help defeat them.

I know it may not mean anything and prolly wont but yes, I will be voting.

 

If everyone voted the system could work. If you dont vote you are not allowed to have any opnion....on anything. IMO.

 

i never vote ......if its degrading to be ruled over.....how much more humiliating to choose your masters.......i vote for endless revolution and an end to force proped power ....................i vote for volentary cooperation and against being forced to participate in slavery torture death and destruction .

 

how is endless revolution not itself tyranny?

i'm going on record as voting, whether my vote is counted or counted accurately or not.

issues interest me. personalities do not.

the kind of world we all have to live in is what counts.

and the kind of world i wish to live in is what my heart belongs to.

there's no idiology that can guarantee that, but participatory democracy gives you something you can do about the freedoms you don't have.

your acts and priorities in every day life have even more to do about it of course, but evey chance to express my preferences, well i don't see any good reason not to and lots of good reasons to, i mean when i can do so in the relative safety of a certain degree of annonymity such as on line or in the voting booth.

you know i just keep thinking, on the off chance our votes might actualy be counted, that if everyone who doesn't vote, voted third party instead, we'd HAVE third party elected officials. i don't know about anyone else, but to me that ought to inspire SOMEthing.

you know they HAVE elected a lot of libertarians from time to time in oregon, and greens get elected once in a while all over the place too. so it really and truely is NOT inconceivable.

greens who really mean what the democrats say
and libertarians who really mean what the republicans say
and a government that really represents the real us.

of course there's no guarantee our current government(s) will or can become this,
but guarantees aren't the point, each opportunity to contribute one little bit
to making it so, counts, even if only as a matter of historical record someone in
the future can go back and say this many people actualy did vote,
so that people at some point can look back and see what actualy happened.

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I am not voting. I stopped voting. I think voting is a joke. The more I see the political ads on TV, the more I realize what a crock it is.

 

that's cool. you can be represented by my vote if you want to be.
and of course i know there's no guarantee mine will even be counted either.
but whether it's likely to be or not, i'm voting anyway, for all the reasons i've cited.

of course i'm not discouraged by political ads on tv, because i never turn the damd thing on, except once in a random while to see if it's ever bacome any less crap yet, which it generaly takes me less then a minuet or so to figure out that it hasn't and turn it back off.

the hell with personalities. i don't know about your state, but in california we don't have to vote the whole ballot. we can just vote whatever issues or candidates interest us and those votes, if any are at all, will, supposedly, and supposedly accurately, be counted.

certainly there must be some issues you have some feelings of personal preferances on?

that's the first thing i do when i get the pamphlet and sample ballot, go through an look at all the issues and read them. not that for and against arguments, but first the stated intentions, and then, if anything looks ambiguous or uncertain or just plain not very convincing, i'll actualy read the absolute detail of proposed chainges to statutory text.

that's what i vote on. NOT the horse puckey crap, whatever those idiot waste zillions of bux trying to coerce people one way or the other with.

the whole purpose of corporate media these days is to keep people confused, misinformed and uninformed, so keep your own sense by turning it off.

then if you still want to know what's really going on, listen to ALTERNATIVE media, or hey, just ask your neighbors, the ones who aren't totaly brain addled by corporate media either.

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vote absentee ballots... with the e-voting machines, one vote for a democrat can be counted as 10,000 votes for a republican

 

I wish I could vote but I'm not 18 yet.

 

I'm def. going to vote, but I'm only going to vote for the people that I have at least some knowledge of.

 

know like if you dont vote will a no vote go to the party in power ? if so a no vote is like voting anyway and automatically goes to the bastard you would"nt have voted for in the first place . it does in the uk

 

In New Jersey our politicians get appointed. So yeah its nice to have an election once and a while to offer a verdict on who the party bosses put in power.

 

much respect themnax ......as far as im concerned your the only poster on theese forums who regularly demonstrates evidence of a brain and a soul ......but endless revolution is the process of destroying any and all mechanisms that coerce people into living and working in/on what they dont want to and isnt in their interest . endless revolution is an unceasing effort to stop people who want to say that land and rescources can be ' owned ' . which is a uphemism for stealing the wealth of the ages [the natural birthright of all people ] fron common use .....it doesnt matter who is put in charge of things like prisons and armies ......they shouldnt exist ....obvously there wont be any revolution , this corrupt pyramid scam is about to collapse under the weight of its own ineptitude ....heres to a future without force propped athourity causing immesurable suffering in the name of justice and enslaveing millions in the name of freedom .....giving away my self determination to a 'representative ' is participating in your own slavery . i dont think there actualy be anybody in the future to discern just what my opinion was about what went down , and if there was theyd probly get it wrong or wright it up to prop up their own theories-agendas .

 

i'm of the opinion that the system does not work as it should, and even if it did i'm not sure i like the system as designed in the first place.

i have a number of unorthodox political opinions....as far as what the US would deem as "unorthodox," anyway. among these is that america is too large to be a single, unified nation as we like to pretend we are now. there are many lands and many peoples in this country. we haven't got the same kind of government in every state, we haven't got a single language in common, or a single ethnicity in common, or a single religion or anything else in common. basically the only thing all the different lands have in common is the dollar bill, the military, and the supreme court....enough to make a state, but not a nation. i personally feel we'd do much better if we broke the united states up into four or five smaller countries. we're too big and too wishy washy for our own good....military and financial strength should not justify arrogance, it does not make a country GOOD. i dont see why we claim to be good, or claim to be a nation, or any of that stuff. world power just means we are capable of destroying the world several times over, which should be scary for everyone, not just those who dont live outside of the US.....

i'm not going to vote on everything. i usually don't. i prefer voting on issues rather than voting for positions. for instance i will be voting in regards to smoker's rights issues on the ballot for my area this year. its a doozy of a situation as far as all that's concerned....

as for politicians....i dont like either party, but ohio is fucked up enough i have trouble believing that the democrats will just make it worse than the republicans have, so i will probably vote for democrats for a few political positions. not all. a republican government (not as in the republican party) is bullshit if you ask me.....the bastard child of monarchy and actual democracy. a democracy is unstable, and does not ensure a better government. americans like to talk about "democracy" as if we lived in an actual democracy, and hold the ideal so high that it is basically taken as a synonym for "righteousness." But there is such a thing as good and bad in my opinion, and people are not always good. in some situations, the majority is wrong. such has been the case for all of our history, and to pretend it will change is stupid. in a true democracy, if the people are wrong, then the government will do wrong.


in a republic, what the people believe has little to do with how the government will behave. politicians lie as much now as ever, and to trust them to uphold their proclaimed beliefs once in power is stupid.


in a monarchy you have just as much likelihood of the government bumbling around or messing up or being corrupt as in any other sort of government....but its far more stable and secure.

there is such a thing as good and evil, in my opinion, but unfortunately there is no tool for determining how good or bad someone is, and there is no black and white answer that EVERYONE can agree on in determining who is good or not. if there were, i'd say only the most noble people should be eligible for power.

a more seductive idea, because it's one that could potentially be put in place, is that only the most intelligent of individuals should run the government. but then many of history's greatest monsters have been exceedingly brilliant. intelligence does not mean that someone will be a good ruler. look at hitler. a genius. an evil genius, but a genius all the same. AND was initially legitimately elected, i might add....

basically nearly all governments suck or have a potential to, and no amount of voting or revolution will help. but then while in the abstract anarchy may sound wonderful, in reality people are stupid, greedy, and brutal, and its not likely to change anytime soon.


personally i think that like many americans i'd rather just keep my head down and not make waves. in many other countries political responsibility means you go out and vote for someone who will change things. in america, a land that proudly claims to be one of the leading democracies in the world, we have some of the lowest percentages of individuals who actually vote. but then there are far more people who get involved with grassroots activism and actually taking it upon themselves to try and change things. some of these organizations i like (i.e. habitat for humanity), some i hate (i.e. the christian coalition)

i think its odd that in a country that claims to be the best in the world, the most free, the most enlightened, the most democratic (i think most of these claims are false) we get far fewer people in the polls, and many of those there don't even really know what they're voting on.

things are changing. they're always changing. they always will be changing. and there will always be strife and chaos in one part of the world or another, and it will always pass eventually. voting really isn't going to make the country better, the system better, or the world better. but it can't hurt, either.

i'm going to vote....just not on much. why should we?

anyway, i know that no matter what i've read about different candidates i'm not getting the whole story and have no doubt that whoever is elected is going to end up doing things differently than promised. voting doesn't give you a right to complain or have an opinion on how things are going like a number of people claim, because voting really IS pretty meaningless. even if it DOES affect who will be elected, it doesnt really let you help determine how the government will ACTUALLY be run.

corruption, deceipt, as well as some genuine forgivable human shortcomings abound in EVERY profession, and though politicians SHOULD be above this, they sadly aren't. most likely they never really will be. so why do we get surprised when politicians do poorly compared to their campaigns? why do people so often believe change will be for the better and not for the worse? democrats and republicans are equally capable of fucking up, deliberately or accidentally. third parties are, too.

i'm just about done with believing in voting, personally. i'll mostly just vote on actual issues and not candidates, as i have little to no faith in almost any of the candidates in almost any election. and as i know i'll never get the full story behind the candidates, and as i know that behavior after election rarely matches speech and propaganda prior to an election, i feel ignorant about the candidates no matter how much i may have researched it. it feels more irresponsible to vote ignorantly than to not vote at all.

 

nope

 

If I get the chance...but hell, I can't remember what day it is half the time.

 

Put mine in the mail on Wednesday:applause: