What is a drug?

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by L.A.Matthews, Nov 5, 2006.

  1. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    Okay, maybe a bad example. How about Datura, or Morning Glory Seeds? Eagle, you yourself have said that LSA is a very bad drug.
     
  2. pfunk910

    pfunk910 Member

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    So why are we being so technical?

    "Because they've never looked at the definition"
    According to dictionary.com, there are 9 different definitions for the word 'drug'. Marijuana would qualify as a drug under only 2 of those definitions. The first definition would qualify any substance put into one's body as a drug, and the second definition is only concerned with legality.
    So everyone who calls marijuana a drug is stupid because they don't define their terms the same as you? What makes you the authority? If you like to call everything you drink, smoke or eat a drug... then that's fine. Most people like to save the term 'drug' for bad substances that deserve the negative connotation of being called a 'drug'. Marijuana does not deserve the negative connotation, even if you know it really is a 'drug'.

    -Mike
     
  3. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    Yeah, it's just a forum. Not a bloody court case. I'm just trying to envoke a debate, to see other peoples opinions. Nothing else. I'm not criticising anyone's opinion on the matter, but I will question it for the sake of debate.
     
  4. pfunk910

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    Yeah, I'm not pissed or anything. It just seemed like there was an insistance to call marijuana a drug.

    -Mike
     
  5. BraveSirRubin

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    Categorizing is one of humanity's faults. The word "Drug" is awefully strong and has a lot of negative conotation in this society. People who smoke the ganja would rather not call it a "drug" because they do not want to fall into the stereotype of a "drug user". Marijuana is Marijuana, Cociane is cocaine, and so on. There are no "Drugs". All of these substances are too different to be so blantly categorized.
     
  6. dollydagger

    dollydagger Needle to the Groove

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    I do not consider marijuana a drug...its an herb. so it alters you state of mind...so does coffee, tea, chocolate...just about anything you ingest into your body will alter you somehow...in my opinion, a drug has to be manufactured. marijuana and mushrooms are ready to go....I saw this quote somewhere, though it was the shit.
    OK, picture a big bud, and underneath it says
    "God does not make mistakes"
     
  7. salmon4me

    salmon4me Senior Member

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    This goes back to joo kyle's comment about addictive substances. It is rare that I agree w/ Kyle but this is one of those times. Heroine among other "drugs", is physically addictive. Marijuana and some other "drugs" are not physically addictive, only mentaly . So if it's made from chemicals and or is physicaly addictive then it's a drug. The only obviuos exception is Cocaine which is not physically addictive (I'm not counting shooting it up, cause I don't want to debate the point), but is mentally addictive and otherwise evil (hence the term 'white devil'). Perhaps the distinction to be made is that Cocaine is so mentally addictive that it will cause some people to take physical action (robbing old ladies).
     
  8. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    Stealing for drugs has nothing to do with what kind of drug it is. I've known people to steal from others for the sake of some pot.

    And also, Datura, Nutmeg, and LSA are all natural, yet they are extremely dangerous.
     
  9. carpet cleaner

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    Another straw man?
     
  10. pfunk910

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    I don't think anyone is saying that every natural plant is a 'good drug'. There is a laundry list of plants that will kill you when ingested. Those aren't drugs... they're just plants that are not meant to be consumed.

    -Mike
     
  11. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    Well, strictly speaking, neither is cannabis meant to be consumed.
     
  12. pfunk910

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    Wait... why not? It's an herb that you can cook with and eat or use to flavor something else, just like any other herbs. Your body will tell you what you should and should not eat, based on how it reacts to certain substances. If something makes you puke and get sick.. I would say it was not meant to be eaten.

    -Mike
     
  13. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    But that's down to what your own body can handle. Some people can't consume cannabis without getting sick, nor can some people eat meat without getting sick...
     
  14. pfunk910

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    This is true. Everything is not for everyone. There are those certain plants that do kill indiscriminately, and I suppose those are the only 'bad' ones. All the others are just there... take em or leave em.

    I Honestly don't really know what we're debating or even talking about now... haha, but I must be leaving for class now.

    -Mike
     
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    anything that alters your perception...?
     
  16. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    That's what I would say a drug is.
     
  17. zodiacflower

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    it's all the placebo effect in truth
     
  18. ripple

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    Anything can be a drug that alters your mood or perception, imho.
     
  19. Any Color You Like

    Any Color You Like Senior Member

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    Everything alters your perception if you think about it... I know I'm just playing on words, but things like TV, school, society, fashion, politicians, religion, etc. alter some people's perception of "reality".
     
  20. salmon4me

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    On the contrary, what effect the drugs have on you have a lot to do with how they are classified. I'm sure there are a few people that would mug someone for weed, but let's not let them change how we think about things. I am sticking to my original analysis.
     
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