2nd time and didnt break threw why?!

Today was my good friends first time trying salvia and i went with him to smoke @ a friends house. My friend was a little sketched out about trying salvia the whole walk to my friends house i assured and reassured him and told him my salvia experence. (1st experence) this would be my second time smoking as well.

This is also 20x salvia.
We had a sitter , well i hit the first bowl i HIT a VERY VERY tiny bowl..which is what gives me the idea that this is the reason well...

i hit the bowl and held it in to show him , and i got the basic salvia effects ( sweating of all my body and i coudnt stop looking @ my friends hockey jersies hug up on his wall i felt like i was zooming into the logo , and i was going into the logo and the logo was a vortex...but that was it, i mean if i moved my head the vortex would be gone , and when i was looking @ my friends door i kept staring @ it till the point my eyes got blurry and it looked as if the door was coming back and forth and zooming in and out..


so i hit another bowl after my friend and i didnt get any other effects.

The first time i did salvia i had a pillow over my face ( my friends say , i dont remember this ) but i was seing colors , and i felt like i was a design and

my whole first trip is here ( http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202332 )

Well i was wondering , since i hit a small bowl and i hit a bigger bowl my first time could that effect my trip?

also hitting two bowls...will that give u an effect or is it better to just hit One big bowl?

2moro im smoking salvia again @ lunch 2moro or Friday....well any advice? can someone help me please... i want to break threw like my first time maybe it was becasue i was watching over my friend and worrying about his trip and that he would relax becasue he was pretty sketchy..could that reuin my trip becasue myfirst salvia experence was amazing ,

Next time mi doing it with another friend whos really relaxed so i dont have to worry about anyone else

should i hit just one big bowl and get ripped

or can i hit 2 bowls of smaller size so i can hold the smoke in longer

Please advice!1!!!

 

Hmm, either it was due to your environment, or perhaps you didn't hold it in long enough during the second bowl. You also need to keep your eyes closed to have the full effects of Salvia. Salvia distorts your perception of time, so while you may have thought that you held it in for a long time during the second bowl, it could've just been 5 seconds which isn't nearly long enough. You need to hold it for at least 30 seconds to get the full effects of the Salvinorin A.

It could also be caused if you're not smoking a standardized extract. If you're using a non-standardized extract, the distribution of the salvinorin A is not uniform, so while you may have smoked a larger bowl, it may have had less concentrated salvia on it.

I'd take it easy on the Salvia though, it's not really something you want to be using every day, just so it doesn't end up becoming a habit (even though it's completely safe).

 

Well its the same extract i smoked the first time but the first time i smoked i hit two bowls too , and i got the full on effect but! i smoked bigger bowls the first time...

so , maybe i didnt do enough so w/e ill try it 2moro or friday.

 

Dude, sorry but you sound like a idiot. 20x right? Then just have 1 or 2 BIG rips held for 7-15 secs, or keep going til it comes on. You started a thread about.. nothing?

 

Im sorry that im looking for some advice from people who smoke Salvia more then i have. Calling me an idiot is not nice way to put it...Hipforums is a userfriend site for people of all ages/experence etc.

If you are calling people idiots for trying somthing new and wanting answers , then im sorry but you are the only idiot here.

 

Sometimes it takes a while or a bit more concentration. My first 3 or 4 trips, I went half into this world, but I was held back into reality by something. The next couple of times after that gave me amazing insight and allowed me to think outside the box very well! I love lady salvia, some people just can't get it to do anything for them, some can!

 

Ha. I've never smoked salvia, cept for a no-good 5x once. But I'm not an idiot, I don't need to ask people how I should smoke to get an effect.