Drugs

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by Peace-Phoenix, Nov 10, 2006.

  1. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    Should all drugs be legalised? If not, which drugs would you legalise or decriminalise and why? Does it make sense to lock people up for harming no one but themselves?
     
  2. Cerebus

    Cerebus Member

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    There's no logical justification towards drugs being illegal. I can only assume that the government wants criminals and criminality associated with drugs, because them being illegal is the only reason they are. No gun crime if you pop down your local chemists for an eighth, or a speedball. No badly mixed coke or heroin to kill users, nor any stigma for going to get help with handling an addiction. Do i believe the nation will all turn into addicts? No, of course not. I've plenty of friends who hardly drink, let alone smoke or take drugs. There's plenty of abstemious people around still, not everyone's a binge-drinking chav with no self-control.
    I can't ever see drugs being legalised in this country though, sad as that is.
     
  3. hollowayjay

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    This is all true. However I reckon that even if weed was legalised the stuff you'd get would be weak draw, not good skunk. there'd be laws against the strong stuff, like against absinth with alcohol. I'm not sure about the hard drugs (smack and crack). In principle i'm for it, but in Switzerland they had these areas in the Platspitz in a couple of towns where anyone could get smack or methadone injections, and it was completely over-run by kids who otherwise wouldn't have got into it probably. THey've scrapped the idea now.
     
  4. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    ZOKL centres. Actually, they have found that places like Switzerland, have a lower smackhead problem than Britain does. If people are gonna do smack, you can hardly stop them and it is much better for them to be getting clean smack and hypodermics, than sharing them and passing on infections/diseases such as AIDS.
     
  5. dhARmaMiLlO

    dhARmaMiLlO Member

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    Certainly drugs can be legalised. What matters is education.
    Drugs are a short cut to realisations that can already be naturally achieved but take a lot more effort.
    Use, do not abuse - that goes for pretty much anything. 'tis a question of balance!

    Drugs are a chemical crutch for the mind. Use them too much and you can't 'walk' without them.



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  6. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    I don't think they are just short cuts to realisations. Certainly there is that element. But underlying it all, they're actually pretty damn fun....
     
  7. experimenting youth

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    I think weed should be legalised, but as for class A drugs I disagree. The thinking for them being illegal is that whe they cant fund they're addiction they will steal rape or do whatever to get there fix. That is also a good reason to legalise weed. when there is a weed shortage it drives people to harder drugs as that is all people can get. Also they could tax it and make lots of money, but it would still probably be cheaper than it is now.
     
  8. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    Legalize most drugs, decriminalize the rest. There was an interesting study done in an area of liverpool a while back, where registered heroine addicts got free heroine off the NHS. This caused all the dealers to bugger right off, it kept the heroine users safer (they weren't taking cut drugs, and the dosages were managed), and since there were no dealers, far less people took it up. Crime went down in the area, and there were other interesting effects that i cant right now remeber. I'll find out the name of the study then post a link to it when i next see the people that told me about it.
     
  9. razy

    razy Fazed and Contused

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  10. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    Not all class A drugs are addictive though. Ecstacy, Acid and mushrooms aren't addictive at all. Cocaine and speed aren't that addictive. It's only crack and heroin really....
     
  11. dapablo

    dapablo redefining

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    WARNING - some bright spark is weighting theirs with very fine sand, good to the eye, but crap in the teeth, try some.
     
  12. hollowayjay

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    Speed is pretty damn addictive man, if only because you can't resist getting over the comedown with a line.
     
  13. Cerebus

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    Speed was always my fave non-cannabis drug, the comedown never bothered me much, and the rushes had me feeling the way many people describe E's effect, but that i've never really had with E's myself. I never found speed even remotely addictive though. I understand even the addictive quantities of heroin are exaggerated somewhat, although i don't know much about that.
     
  14. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    Always enjoy speeding at the time, but the comedown is the harshest I've found with anything and I can't sleep for ages. It's just not worth it for me. The pleasure doesn't seem to outweigh the pain. E is a different story though. It's like being inside the feeling of love, and I can usually get a good night's sleep at the end of it. The feeling is well worth the day or so of mild depression and general worthlessness afterwards. What goes up, must come down....
     
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