Why the future Babylon is never spoken about in church?

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  1. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    I don't think the Scriptures were unclear about who the last days Babylon was going to be. I don't think you could describe America any better than this. Why won't your church leaders tell you? Because they are the Harlots in cahoots with the devil to keep you in the dark or just plain ignorant of what the Bible really says. If you could read over the 100 prophecies describing the end times nation in power and recognize it as America, why can't they? Get out of the churches and back into Yahweh. The last days churches as signified by the church of Laodicea in Revelation chapter 3 are not of Him. He is seen standing outside the door of them. In other words, HE IS NOT IN THEM.

    http://www.sherryshriner.com/sherry/america-babylon.htm
     
  2. ElProximo

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    Sherry is just plain wrong.
    The UAE would fulfil these (using her sorta standards)
    or
    Russia would too.
    China would.
    Japan.

    And Im not even saying any of those ARE or might be but just saying if you look around you might have noticed the USA is 4% of the worlds population.

    Now Im just gonna go wild and speculate out loud but....

    I have actually heard about a proposed type of 'UN City State' type idea.
    Seriously,
    Like and Island somewhere that is a SuperCentre UN 'nation' that would act as a SuperHub for all the world.
    EVERYONE from every UN nation would be a 'Citizen'.

    Its a crazy idea but can you just imagine such a thing?
    If they ever did pull it off I would say something like that would fit the 'Mystery Babylon' perfectly.
    Id also imagine that it would be Muslims that nuked the damn thing too.

    But no, Im not convinced the USA is Mystery Babylon at all.
    Maybe.
    Just dont see it yet.
     
  3. JesusDiedForU

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    There are many clues to show us who Babylon is... but if you were to walk to one person and ask them this on clue...

    "Babylon is the land of mingled people?"

    Who DO YOU think they would say??


    Russia, China, and Japan may fit some of the clues.... but there is only ONE nation that fits ALL of them--AMERICA
     
  4. JesusDiedForU

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    The Christian Book Store
     
  5. JesusDiedForU

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    That was sarcasm...
     
  6. tikoo

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    yaya , a lot of people sucks the titty of the great whore babylon . she make you rich or at least feed you on the dream of infinite prosperity . infinite prosperity is a chronic baddass philosophy that don't jive with nature . one american senator said it this way - we are entitled to all the energy that we may desire .

    contrawise , the jesus way is to be very efficient and simple and respectfully kind to the earth . many hearts know and believe this . no one has not heard . yet there's a schiz of feeling and action . too much biz-ee-ness action ? really , in the simple life there's not all that much to do but hang out and not want much and get your healing from the earth and play the guitar .

    as the wind turns my little home windmill ,
    then i can write a few words here or
    grind some corn . it's all of that kind
    of energy i need , and surely i'm sure you
    don't need many words from me .
     
  7. ImFuzzynutz

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    The reason it is never mentioned in church because even the delussional pastors know that it's bullshit. Only an ignorant fuck like jdfu would consider it to be America. Prove it I say. You and you asswipe old man think you have the inner track on what God supposedly claims in the Bible. THAT is either hysterically funny, pathetically sad or really, really scarey. You and your daddy need to be locked away son.
     
  8. tikoo

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    i'd consider it to be the usa . i thought about it when the two towers fell in ny - hmm ? .. as in : 1 Fallen , 2 Fallen (is babylon the great) . what symbols were attacked that day ? an empire of World Trade and a Global Military Force , which are attributes of the Babylon . the only reason i'd consider this prophecy at all is that our world is in the worst possible trouble . the threat of nuclear anhilliation is upon us every day . toward this horror , i will hold and consider any and every accorded relationship .
     
  9. Columbo

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    when the "world trade centre" fell - the biggest building became the "empire sate building"
    what symbolism is there in that ? quite a lot -
     
  10. JesusDiedForU

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    Isn't the Sears Tower taller?


    The evidence is in the characteristics of Babylon. Babylon is describe as a future country that will be a dominate power. That will very overally wealthy. Babylon will be the land of mingled people. Babylon will have quite a number of Jews living in her. Babylon will have a mother (How does a country have a mother... think about it). Babylon will be considered the world's policeman. The list goes on... check out some of the many sites...

    Yahoo search: Babylon is America
     
  11. tikoo

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    what do you do if you think america is babylon ? how do you ' come out of her , take no part in her sins ' ? well , maybe you don't play the stock market or join the military and for cripes sake Donut Litter ! lotsa people tho sucking the titty of the great whore babylon out of ignorance or perversion . not me , no way . so i just try to be poor , or rather , simple and free .

    that john the revelator , such a dreamer eh ? how's about Ch9 and his description of noisy helicopters and tanks and a great army that invades iraq , and at the end of the story 4 angels arise from the euphrates . probably bush has read it and can think highly of his glorious part .

    tis something odd to me tho about the chapter's end as i somehow read two different bible translations . one , it turns out ok ... in another it doesn't . maybe i was dreaming something too .
     
  12. JesusDiedForU

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    Follow Jesus... He is usally good at showing people the way.
     
  13. campbell34

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    God is telling the Jews that live in Babylon to get out and that is why He tells them to consider going to Jerusalem. When God tells the Jews to flee it is because at this time America has only two years left before it is destroyed. The prophecies are telling you what is going to happen. And if you look at the Islamic nations that are coming to power you will see they are the same ones the Bible is talking about. None of this is happening because of chance it is because the One who authored the Bible knew the future. The Islamic nations will target two nations in a big way. America, and Israel. America will fall according to the Scriptures, but Israel will be spared by God. The Islamic Nations will through everything they have to get rid of the Jews but God will not allow them to take Jerusalem, at this same time the Jews will find out who their God really is. And the Bible tells us when the Jews see their God, they will be very upset when they learn who He is.
     
  14. tikoo

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    we walk the path of peace and simplicity , this is by far more real than wandering the symbol-world of a prophet's dreaming . in simplicity we have the freedom of mind to act purely according to instinct , with god , living as wild human in an anarchy of goodness . by this , i mean peace is creative .


    revelation is somewhat irrelevent , tho not useless , certainly not of hopelessness . seems but a meditational puzzle . in the writings of john the revelator we are musing upon an account of personal dreams , some focused upon an 'end of an age' crisis time .

    an ultimate world-wide baddass crisis time is our time ? ya . in this time , man can destroy the earth , and has not yet retreated from threatening to do it .
    nuclear weapons are armed and ready . tension and insanity are on the rise .

    ol' john the revelator says every little thing gonna be alright .

    a good revelator gets a big thing right , and otherwise can write a alot of supporting nonsense to impressively frame it with seriousness .

    consider your own dreaming . doesn't the divine meaning
    of the longest dream reduce quite nicely to about
    seven little words of explanation .
     
  15. campbell34

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    A true Prophet of God does not waste words with nonsense, he speaks the truth. Most of the prophecy I am speaking of did not come from John. Most of it came from the Old Testament Prophet's of which John supports and gives more light to their prophecies. John of the Book of Revelation does say everything will be alright after the return of Christ, yet a lot of water will pass under the bridge before that, and with that a lot of blood. Revelations of the Bible and the prophecies of the Bible are only irrelvent if Gods truth is irrelvent. The Bible tells us most men would turn from God's truth. Which is a fulfillment of His prophecy as well.
     
  16. tikoo

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    i understand god's truth as organic and common as dirt . to make it into words is the work of a poet , a child's heart .


    how shall we bring peace to the world ? there is power to to do so in holding the god truth .. mmm... which appears to me sensually as something 'round' . i wonder at at . i am alive with it .
     
  17. campbell34

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    A poet unless instructed by God could not predict the future. Jerusalems East gate is sealed today because men of God that were inspired by Him said it would remain sealed, until God returned and opened it Himself. The Bible tells you all attempts to open it would fail. ALL ATTEMPTS HAVE FAILED. JUST AS THE BIBLE SAID THEY WOULD. The Jews are back in Israel as the Bible said they would be. The Bible tells us that when the Jews would return they would take South Israel first. They did (1948). The Bible tells us the Jews would take Jerusalem second. They did (1967). The Bible is telling you out right what is going to happen, yet it appears this world has sunk to such levels of evil, that it can't even see the truth, when it's right in front of their face.
     
  18. tikoo

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    yes , it is special that the hebrew nation has survived , and their prophets have served them well . even so , all people are of the one god . thus , other nations -other prophets .

    i guess i don't need nor accept israel as the center of the universe .

    my holy!city is in the highclouds and moves around alot . sometimes it'll swing low to earth . once it was my holy!job to cut loose the tether ropes that had been let down and tied to the forest trees . maybe someday i'll travel with them , but for now i prefer to walk about . this is true enough .
    have a word about it with the next
    bird you meet , if you like .

    your friend ,
    mikul

    hxx
    oewfk
     
  19. Columbo

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    Oh yes and when is all this supposed to happen - all this doomy gloomy little bit of christianity?
    Actually the text is describing Nigeria which is far more corrupt than the USA ever will be !
     
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    When did Nigeria mount up to heaven? Does Nigeria speak with a great voice in the world Today? Is Nigeria considered the hammer of the whole earth? Is Nigeria the great merchant nation of the world? Do all the nations travel to Nigeria? Does Nigeria have a large Jewish population? According to the prophecies of the Bible their will be two nations that will be in focus at the time of the end. Today we see America fulfilling all the prophecies of Babylon, and we see Israel. It is not Israel and Nigeria.
     

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