College Are For Fools

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by winterfresh, Nov 13, 2006.

  1. winterfresh

    winterfresh Member

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    I don't know why people here in america go to college when all their jobs are going to be outsourced anyway?

    It's sad really, sounds to me like a waste of money.
     
  2. Grim

    Grim Wandering Wonderer

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    Took me several years of college to realize this..

    It can be a good thing. I know it's where I really became myself, and learned a lot(though not from any of the classes). It's also where I met basically everyone who is now a part of my life...
    But I'd still say it's generally pointless.
     
  3. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    I think the title of the thread is supposed to be "College is for fools"...maybe it's because I'm in college that I know this? :rolleyes:
     
  4. dollydagger

    dollydagger Needle to the Groove

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    i took 6 years of travelling and screwing around to realize what i wanted to study...
    i dont know how old you are, but if you feel like everyone around you is making you go to college...dont. only go if you want to.
    and major in something that isnt going to be outsourced
     
  5. winterfresh

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    Knowing stuff isn't going to mean squat when by the end of the day you can't feed your family or yourself properly because the job position you went to college for is taken by some other woman from across the globe that works for half the pay.

    Join the future of no middle class, useless.
     
  6. dollydagger

    dollydagger Needle to the Groove

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    oh, plus, when you get to be my age, the govenment will PAY for you to go...instead of paying to go, i get a check in the mail!!
     
  7. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    So what's the solution. we all just sit around and not be productive members of society?
     
  8. winterfresh

    winterfresh Member

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    You make a good point, though it's getting harder & harder to find one.
     
  9. Grim

    Grim Wandering Wonderer

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    ...college attendance is not a prerequisite for being a 'productive member of society'.
    Nor should we really care about being a happy little cog in thise awful society of ours. Frankly I'd rather that me and mine have a good, fulfilling life and be called "Unproductive" than the other way around.

    I spent too many years at college, as did my lady and all of my friends. We're all currently in jobs that have nothing to do with our degrees, that we could have gotten just as easily without. Nonetheless, college is where I learned a lot about myself and met a lot of people who are important to me. It can be a great experience, but only if you do it on your own terms. Do not let parents, friends, or society at large pressure you into immediately hopping to college after high school.
     
  10. winterfresh

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    Simple, end free trade, importing, we're a big country, we can produce our own goods. It's just lazy weak minded & paid off corrupt politicians that make the country we live in the way it is going. Likewise to many residents too.
     
  11. dollydagger

    dollydagger Needle to the Groove

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    hopefully all these thigs will chage...i feel like we are at a cusp of something....
     
  12. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    Its pretty obvious you haven't been to uni - and especially haven't taken a single Macro class. :rolleyes: Every single time Autarky has been tried, living standards have dramatically fallen off. Trust me, free trade doesn't hurt America. It hurts the third world nations you deal with.

    Secondly, more education is a good thing - America's (as well as other industrialized nations) are slowly changing from a manufacturing economy to a post-industrial one, focussing more on services and technology. With a lesser degree of people employed in manufacturing, and more employed in high-tech industries, arguing a university education is a bad thing is a ridiculous notion.

    I wouldn't call people lazy and weak-minded when you can barely spell the knee-jerk policies and bad advice you're dishing out.
     
  13. joo kyle

    joo kyle thisandthat

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    unless you go to a music or art etc. school. Where there's no such thing as a steady job.
     
  14. -peaceman69-

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    If we raised the tariffs it would make foreign goods more expensive than Amerikan ones, causing people to by more Amerikan products thus employing more Amerikan workers. But the pigs that run our government wont do this because they’re benefiting from our trade deficit and poor economy. Just look how the stock market keeps going up while Amerikans are loosing their jobs.
     
  15. Illmaeo

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    2012?
     
  16. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    im going to college to learn, not to prepare for a job.... if that makes any sence at all...
     
  17. Frieden

    Frieden Senior Member

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    The majority of jobs being outsourced are the jobs people with high school education or less have held in the past. Are real worry should be what are the less educated people going to do for employment in the future?
     
  18. winterfresh

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    Great plan, we should slowly tariff curtain outside goods at first so American citizens are force to buy cheaper American homemade goods which would help kick start smaller US manufactories & slowly progress job growth. Little by little tariff up & up until the US is finally independent of outside influences. Due to this, inflation will decrease & we will have a healthier working economy again.
     
  19. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    Knee-jerk reaction. Raising tarriffs doesn't have no consequences; foreign nations will also raise the tariffs on American goods, thus decreasing the market size and promoting inefficiency. These costs are transferred onto consumers.

    I recently read one study that showed that in Canada, every job in the steel industry saved by tariffs actually costs consumers twice what the worker earns income. Depending on the industry, you could be looking at paying an extra $300,000 to save a $50,000 dollar job.

    Not only that, but current free trade acts actually have good consequences for America and other first world nations. Jobs are kept in America; the efficiency of manufacturing is much more dependent on the amount of capital invested than labour costs (which applies to nearly all manufactured goods except textiles and the most basic of assembly) - and most physical capital is extremely hard to move. Hell, in the new economy it is arguable that human capital matters even more than physical, and it is nearly impossible to move. Under these trade regulations, industries where America isn't competitive still maintain huge subsidies and tarriff protection - notably agriculture. In short, the WTO for the most part opens up huge exporting markets in industries where America is competetive, while at the same time allowing protections in ones which you are weak.

    In other industries, the patent laws introduced by the GATT (which extend patent protection to a ridculously long time) essentially allow American companies to rake in the income at other people's expense - noticably the pharmaceutical industry.

    It is a logical fallacy to believe that free trade hurts America in areas other than environmental protection and the textile industry - and even there the benefits outweigh it by so much I find it hard to understand how people can argue against it in the US.
     
  20. schwahead

    schwahead Senior Member

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    leave america
     

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