What things look like when tripping.

When i'm tripping things seem to repeat in spirals and circles. Things usually Have spirals exactly like this picture on them. Would anyone else agree?

 

I've never had a trip with that visuals that intense. I sort of see fractal patterns in objects, though.

 

I often see geometric shapes of various colors in stuff, like looking though a kaleidoscope

 

Yeah i get a combination of kaleidoscopic geometric shapes and fractaling. The fractaling is mostly when i'm looking at my hands, or my bathroom sink with all the dried up tooth paste on it.

 

i see something like ropes that are inertwined. like old celtic art in colors.



we all know that this picture cant actually descibe it, its starts out as this then gets way more intense.

 

Agreed. I've seen tons of shit like that, but that's sort of a mild distortion, like the calm before the storm. If you're looking for more, (IDK if you are but I always was back then) slowly build up your LSD dose, or maybe try a candyflip if comfortable with rolls.

On LSD alone with a big dose you could see shit like that turn into a bunch of men on a battlefield with dragons and shit going wild. That's what's great about the shit, you can get down to crazy minute detail if you take enough. Beware though it's easy to become completely immersed in intricate visuals. Often to get the full potential out of a dose you concentrate ie stare at visuals and clear your mind. Warning: a bit freaky at times if you're not accustomed to becoming one with all lol.

2c-e can do similar craziness with visuals, but I always found that nothing could get down to the level of LSD... as in drawing nano sized ninjas battling on my leg, versus way bigger buddah statues melting into each other and into a pool of liquid. Both of those were real life visuals, LSD then 2c-e. Something about LSD it can just get down to crazy detail, probably good for architects.

You must have a lot of inspiration for your art after you come down.

 

The most intense psychedelic occurance I have experienced was a white-out. Spirals and shit are cool, but that white-out shit was fuckin intense. I couldn't see anything but a flood of white and it sounded and felt like I was in a wind tunnel, which was crazy because I have large ears and I thought the wind was gonna blow me away.......my ears acting as kites or some shit.

 

LMFAO man it's good you got a sense of humor about that shit. My ears are tiny lolllll.

I love visuals, probably my favorite aspect of tripping besides laughing, and music. Love to recount sick visuals with other trippers too.

Like I said, I'm pretty much set in my belief that L, even in sort of small doses can give intricate visuals that the rc's can't really touch, along with the heavenly body buzz... but OEV's aren't the only visuals!

TNS: White-outs are too much AFAIC, it's a crazy experience and all, but it's sort of dull, if tripping that hard you can even comprehend what 'dull' or your 'hands' are, lol.

I know you been experimenting with the deuce, have you spent much time taking in the CEV's on 20-25 mg or higher? I've seen animaniacs episodes that don't exist as CEV's just happen real time on like between 30 and 40 with a semi-accurate scale.

On ~25 or so my first time I could imagine something, close my eyes, and see it clear as day in a psychedelic fashion. I imagined a beautiful woman on a clear-water tropical beach in a bikini, closed my eyes, and there she was walking towards me. I'm sure I've said this before, maybe even in my exp report on erowid's 2c-e vault as "likwid."

But what really blows that shit out the water with CEV's, along with every other psychedelic, is DMT. That shit is like a ticket to alternate dimensions, whichever one you go to just depends on some cosmic magic carpet... you have no control. No imagining and seeing like with deuce, this shit imparts the information somehow. Whether it's from the inner depths of your mind, or sent to you through some external inexplainable force, I can't say.

My carpet was china cat sunflower by the dead and I literally felt the presence of a higher consciousness and knew it was a cat-like being... now I was so far gone at the time that I really thought I WAS music and was riding it in ancient egypt in the future... if that makes any sense. I didn't know the name of the song at the time, but I wonder maybe deep in my mind I did and that's why I felt the cat's presence.

Most recent exploration was a friend who had his first breakthrough. He saw three asian dudes with a box filled with energy, it was blue and glowing brightly. They didn't say anything, put it down, and he opened his eyes for a test: to see if they would still be there when he closed his eyes again. He shut them back up and there was the box of energy. Slowly, the box's energy got so intense that it exploded into inexplainable psychedelia. I can only imagine that he merged with this psychedelia, since deemst is like melting into oneness with ALL as you're breathing out the smoke.

A couple minutes later he met a being that was 'his friend' that communicated telepathically... This dude sent me on my first trip many moon ago so it made me happy he finally got to hyperspace after five years on the prowl.

This shit is triiippppiiinnggg man, one of the only drugs I have found to be "worth it." It takes a strong mind to come back from a serious flash though. My colors and melting seem to be a little bit more prevalent for a few hours - a day after.

Visuals pwn.

 

Yeah that white-out I mentioned was on 2c-e, actually. I can imagine how you might feel white-outs are kinda dull but, along with the wind-tunnel effects, it got pretty deep for me. What was crazy about it, was that I could still see the colors in my mind, but it wasn't translating to my vision........which was just a blank white canvas. I stayed there for a while, not sure how long, and I just kinda painted my own psychedelic picture/scenary on the white canvas and explored it. That was on my first 2c-e trip. I am not sure how much I dosed that time, but it took to scoops with my finger to hold it all. Since then, then highest I have gone has been 33mg, and it wasn't even near as intense.

And no, I haven't really explored the CEV's, because I am always with other trippers and we like to go explore shit. Never really time to sit down and explore the CEV's.

I am interested in DMT, as well. I have just found an email-only vendor. He also has DPT for $47/g, which I am also interested in. I just don't think I am ready for either of these yet, so I am gonna wait a year or two. Definitely gonna happen though.

 

i have gotten the spirals you are talking about. things constantly move in a circle as well. the time i did 'cid i had a cd in my Sony dvd player and the TV screen had this purple and blue coloured spiral on the screen as a 'screen saver' sort of thing. i remember it never stayed motionless (when i was tripping that is) it would constantly spin around itself and then all the different colours would seperate into all sorts of objects like snakes, dolphins, flowers, etc and would always swirl and intermingle with each other.

when i finally came down, i was willing my mind to re-create that experience. but it of course never did. but whenever i saw that swirl of colour again that was all i could think about.

 

This one picture it looks like what rug always gives me visually...But with lsd , theyre like that but arranged perfectly. I dont think a computer could do it as well. Maybe. Do you think?

Seriosuly, it reminds me , the pic, of the bad visuals you get from rc on blotter ... Too much confusion! Visuals seem to fit.

On L , its shapped like if angels have been makin it or something, and its all shiny and like a little garden lol


What really gets me is how the visuals fit with thoughts. How they fuse together. The little dragonflies that always stand out or eyes or whatava I see, they always narrate my thoughts. You will start writing a song about anything, and it will seem like its about lsd...Because of how the visuals fit em. So it slways gradually has me writing about the trip hehe

 

Acid makes the mind very suggestable basically. If you believe something to be happening, it'll probably start happening (which is what usually sets off bad trips. You sense something as being wrong, and that sense of wrongness gets intensified out of all proportion). If you think you can see a pattern in something, you WILL see that pattern. The human brain is programmed to find pattern and order in everything, it helps us understand the world better if we can find logical patterns in it. This is why humans like to sort things and categorize them and so on, it's just how we work.

 

That picture is fairly similar in some respects, though the colors are wrong and it's far too unorganized to fit into an LSD type visual.

For me though, I don't know about everyone else, but especially during this last trip where I took 8 geltabs the ultra intense fractals that I saw were indescribable in the same way that you percieve colors that aren't real sometimes during a trip.

That last time, there are two things that really stick out in my mind as being "odd." The first one was near the beginning of the trip and was the first indication that things were about to be different for a while. I still have a hard time explaining what happened, but I'll try: we were watching Mitch Hedberg's special, and after noticing little things like parts of a yellow tshirt appear greenish and tracers and feeling weird, I looked at the tv and all the sudden it was split into four sections, each with a different part of the video playing in it. Now, if you can imagine, each section was slightly disjointed, but also overlapped at the same time. Almost like some were ahead, some behind, showing a bloated and shrunken version of the room he was telling jokes in. Then it lost its video quality, started lookin like it was just a window and that Mitch was standing THERE, miniaturized.

17 hours later, when I was tryin to sleep after all my buddies had long passed out (we all drank, but even after bein drunk for a while and watching Lucky Number Slevin, I still had visuals and couldn't sleep) I was watchin the DMB poster morph around in the dark, let my mind fill in what my eyes physically could not see, and I would roll around and close my eyes, then come back to that...and then I turned and looked at the mirror on the back of the door, and saw three street lights reflected....and then those three lights fell to the left (fell down, from my perspective of laying down) and then continued to shift more slowly in the same direction. I would blink, and it would do it again. Look away, then they'd fall and grow bright halos with one or two prominent flares. Then blink and the same thing. What's especially odd about it, to me, was that at that point in a trip im usually either seeing almost nothing or just real intense aftershadows, whatever those are called when you look at something and then either close your eyes or look at a white surface, and you see the negative of that object. Where things were normally calm and don't move a lot, this was jumpy and moved all over.

Other than that, I don't have any really crazy visual experiences to recount, which I thought was odd for having taken 8, though the whole thing was pretty crazy. A lot of what was really crazy for me stemmed out of language, how people talk, personalities, how you feel how you're acting, etc. My two friends I was with that night always start that story off with "ok, so he entertained us for 14 HOURS on friday...we did nothing all night, and it was AWESOME." I felt funny, acted funny, said things that they thought were funny, and when I heard them laughing at something I had said, I laughed even more.

It's odd, because my friend that got these for me and I have both taken way more of it than we were told to (first batch we were warned not to take more than 4 or 5, took 8, second batch warned to not take more than 2, he took 6 and we might get some more for us to trip together) but neither of us has had anything visually stunning happen. Things have been crazy, but not visually, it's always more of a mind thing. We both think in a really similar fasion, and I have heard about people taking a lot of either acid or shrooms and being able to not see a whole lot; being able to channel the energy in such a way that they transfered the effects, so to speak, to their other senses, in some cases just so that they felt nothing at all, but thought so drastically differently.

Thoughts on that - that different ways of processing information, by the brain, will cause different people to experience similar doses very differently. And I know that every trip varies even within a person, but I'm talking about generally across people; people who think in a similar way will experience things in a similar manner.

One little side note...almost all of my flashbacks involve seeing patterns where normally there aren't, like you see when you're in the experience.

 

http://www.grand-illusions.com/pinwheel.htm
go to there and download the exe and stare at the middle for 30 seconds and then look at anything. thats what i see.

i get serious kalidoscope eyes when i go to sleep, and i always see loads of blue led everywhere

 

god i love acid.

 

Speaking of optical illusions, there are certain illusions I can't see anymore, they don't work like they used to. One in particular I'll find a copy of later, but it has like 9 or so circles on it with rings around dots in the centers, I don't even remember what the illusion is anymore and the first time i saw it was only a year ago.

 

Wow, amazing! I have seen little aboriginal rock drawings come to life on my wall and begin to dance in sophisticated patterns. I have also seen patterns that constantly change giving me brain candy while I trip, I also see spiritual hallucinations! Sounds like you had some good visuals, glad to hear it!

 

I havnet tripped in a while, but I see some stuff like that first picture when I smoke pot heavily.

 

I took a picture of the lamp I thought was Alive this past week when I was tripping. It's in my cellphone but I dont have the service to mail it to my e-mail unless I pay 5 bux a month for it. I am very tempted to just pay the 5 bux and mail it so I can post and share with you guys...the lamp was breathing.....

 

You know that is the most logical thing I have heard in a while. It has flaws, because sometimes images do seem to come unbiden to the mind. You might be thinking of a flower and it changesinto a metal bullfrog. This image may not please you, but goiing with the changes makes for more interesting viaual hallucinations. For the most part we actively create the scenes in our trip but with some help from the brain. I sometimes don't go with the flow, and I start trying to switch the visual sceme that I am helping make and turn it into something else. This starts something new, sort of like a musical improvisation where the groove starts to turn and all the player have to just adjust to the new sounds. With pot that is no big deal when you go off the track. With major psychedelics you really have to go with the flow of the trip. I think it is best when you can complete a halucinatory "episode" to it's completion. Maybe then there would be a stronger meaning rather thant just random visions.