Are you ok? Pardon me? I asked if you were ok. [font="] I live, I breath, I walk about, even tend to tasks of a neccessitive nature, as to "ok" well I'd have to inquire as to the meaning of these overworked letters.[/font] [font="] hmmm the letters occupy the 15th, and 10, positions in the alphabet, 15/10 or 3/2 reduced, in a possible numeric expression of psychological health based on some unheard of "trinity psychology" operating on the premise that humans are triune beings comprised of intelligence, personality, and emotions, Further if the same naive attempt to represent a psychological variable with a single quotiant is used, as in the profane IQ, then 3/2 could mean 2 aspects of the trinity operational, then yes I might be "Ok". (I wonder if there is some mathematical reason why to either side, i.e. 14/9, and 16/11 are irreducible.)[/font] [font="]I see absolutely no informative value of oxygen/potassium other than both being neccessitive to the functioning of the human biological system, though by no means exclusively so.[/font] [font="]But then to take a purely whimsical turn and take it to mean ovulating knowledge, now there is a term pregnant with some real potential.[/font] [font="]I suppose it could be antithetical to k.o., ignoring the literal knocked out in favor only of the connotation only, hence it meaning not unnaturally unconscious, in that sense, obviously I am ok[/font] [font="]ah then there is the possible zero kilobytes, but then the question would be nonsensical.[/font] [font="]and I missed entirely occasionally Kevin, but as I've seen this asked of non-Kevins’ I find that meaning exceptionally improbable[/font] [font="]have I attained a personal temperature of zero Kelvin, only metaphorically so.[/font] [font="]I did attend kindergarten so that would be 1/k[/font] [font="]I am not a 1000 years old so there again I am ok[/font] [font="]Well I guess by now you see my point, whether I said yay, or nay to the question, what could it possibly mean?[/font] [font="]Why any damned thing I felt like it meaning of course. It is my considered opinion that we dispense with the question as an example of how much laziness has crept into our interpersonal communications, here in the dawn of the 21rst century. [/font] [font="]Consider this, is it possible that we have forgotten how to communicate authentically, do we actually stop to verify that what we understood someone to say, on the basis of how we interpreted the words they said, or do we make the incredible assumption that of course we did since we speak the same language?[/font] [font="]opps, hmmm, hypothetical situation, [/font] [font="]Two planes are rerouted enroute, one from Florida, one from Alaska, they land in San Francisco, it is 50 degrees. Now still think we speak the same language?[/font] [font="]I just came in from outside, my friend asked is it cold outside? I said no it is quite nice, she came back for a jacket saying "It is freezing out there. You may think that is not reresentitive of the entire language, it is not hard to show that it is. all language is metaphor, and we all build our own metaphors. My question is I wonder if enough of us, give enough of a damn to try to do something about this , and othere problems that are destroying our possibility to ever truly be human beings, being human[/font] [font="]Amen and Halleweirdja!![/font] [font="]All praise The Mother of Quintessential weirdness, and Father of the Penultimately Strange.[/font] [font="]In the holy name of the essentially weird, go ye therefore weirdify all you meet, be sure to blow as many minds as possible, and understand the DNA of any to humans differs by less than about .01% we truly are brothers and sisters, in the biggest dysfunctional family ever.[/font] [font="]until next week, here at the one true church of the weirdendental, we wish for you indwelling peace, shared love, and a wonder-full time.[/font] [font="]sine cera.[/font]
(this is kind of lengthy I am succinctly challenged, however I "feel " it is pertinent in responding to your statement, for you see you may be able to help me with my version of the same statement applied elsewhere) my sincere apologies cerridwen, I suppose I'm just not ready for prime time. I am basically poking fun at the word "okay", in a humorous manner(I thought) while at the same time, convey some of the reasoning that is behind one of assertions I make that is foundational to a very, very, large argument, (argument in the sense of a presentation of all the reasons why one is convinced of some thing.). The large argument? We can CHANGE THE WORLD!! I was very involved in the counter culture and anti-war movement in the '60s, and it was pretty devastating that it all fell apart pretty much with the end of the war. ; I wondered a lot about what had happened to "revolution" but at the same time became pretty disillusioned by, what I perceived as our failure. It has been a varied and long strange trip since then, but in there just prior to personal meltdown, I received some very good training. There are very few people in this country that have ever been presented with an accurate picture of what science is, that is not surprising, it involves critical thinking, and always questioning authority, and "oh my" we can't have people thinking for themselves. Now then, to the point, if you ask me how I am, and I answer "Okay", how much did I really tell you? I guess I'm not totally against the usage of Okay, but when it becomes the longest answer we get to that question, what kinds of things might it say about us, well, in my opinion it is a pretty superficial answer, and if we are okay with that, then can we really say we have any interest in being "authentic in relationships, genuine in our behavior, and transparant in our communications. We need a revolution today a far greater revolution than any expected, we need the revoltion of evolution, were the unit of selection is not the gene, but the meme. A meme's may consist of artifacts, mentafacts, and behaviours, the one that is critical that we get a good handle on is mentafacts, there is a huge amount ot information that needs be known by any who would look for a better tommorrow, and it needs to be known quickly, Mentafacts are communicated largely in words, we need copying fidelity, this case of Okay is just one of the interesting challanges we are currently paying far too little attention to. I trry to ask myself at least once a day what will our childrens, childrens, children say of us" Call out the instigators, for there is something in the air, Stop children what's that sound, everyone look what is going down... sine cera [font="][/font]
Hello, Veteran Cosmic Rocker! I don't know if I'm on target or not with my response as relating to your entire post here, but I'll give it a whirl. What I'm getting from what you've said here is you're speaking about how our society has come to the point where we are no longer a cohesive culture of people. Subsequently, when one asks another, "How are you?"; and the person being asked gives an answer of "OKay..."; perhaps you are suggesting that the answer of 'okay' is not really sincere, but it's just being said as a pat all-purpose answer for the sole purpose of providing an answer .... as opposed to one giving a sincere response to the question. If I'm on the right track, I'll go you one further on this subject. I propose that the person asking the question "How are you?" lots of times is just asking the question just for something to say because they think they need to say something; not because they sincerely care about the welfare of the person of which they ask this question; no? I believe this to be true because this whole aspect is kinda one of the things I've observed going on in our society for quite a few years now. I notice it because I conduct myself in such a manner in that I strive to ask and answer questions sincerely. And, I have noticed that; like, if I'm not feeling well because I'm coming down with a cold or something, and someone asks me, "How are you today?" And because I'm sick, I'll say, "Man you know, I don't feel well at all today." Or if I'm disgruntled for whatever reason, my response might be something like, "Not too well.."; or, "I've had better days..." Then, I've noticed that the reaction of the person who asked me "how are you today" will be something like: they look up at me all surprised and stuff, then they look all uncomfortable and brush me off because they didn't receive the standard pat phrase, "Okay", or "Fine" or some other neutral non-thought out answer like they expected to, you know what I mean? The normal thing that they should do in a situation like that where someone said they weren't doing well would be to pursue that if they had really been concerned as to how that person was - instead they look all surprised at the answer like we're all robots that have the same kind of day everyday which warrants they same kind of response, which is "okay", or "fine" .... but never anything like, "not too good, actually." Nooo, don't step outside the box! The human has made much progress in the last one-hundred years, and all the inventions that are resultant of this progress have changed our day-to-day lives extraordinarily. Each generation hands down what they know to the next generation - we learn ways of thinking, standard ways of doing things, accepted standards for conducting ourselves or for getting things done as we live our daily lives. Take an elder who is still alive today who was born in, let's say, 1920. That elder formed his way of thinking and learned a standard way of doing things that is far, far different from a youngster coming up today. The difference in the way of life in 1920 and in 2006 are vast. As well, the big corporations have changed things in our country by doing things like, sending parts over to foreign countries to be machined because they can get it done cheaper that way. By not having that machining done here in America, they are not re-investing in their own county's welfare for the benefit of all, and this way of conducting business is kind of like a betrayal to their own kind, in a sense. In 1920 when America was developing and growing stronger, there was a real sense of stick-together-ness amongst the citizens, and everyone helped each other by patronizing each other's businesses; which encouraged each town, then the entire country, to grow and prosper. The baker was selling lots of bread and pastries, so he was able to afford to pay his neighbor, who was a shoemaker, to make new shoes for his family. Now, the shoemaker; because of the money he made from making shoes for the baker, could now afford to have his neighbor the plumber, fix his plumbing. The plumber, in turn, could now afford to buy a car. The auto salesman could now afford to hire an extra mechanic; and so on down the line. People then had a real sense of helping each other grow and prosper, and I think they truly cared more about each other. The way of life then dictated involvement with one another. The way of life now does not dictate that, and we even had a generation not too long ago that was labeled the "Me" generation! The problem is, a lot of us on the planet today were handed down morals, standards, a way of life from a time that doesn't exist anymore, as relating to how we are all forced to conduct ourselves in today's world. In today's world, it's: Time is Money! ..... Hurry, hurry - you're taking too long! ...... We needed that part yesterday! ..... This computer is newer, faster, smaller - gotta have it! ...... Mine's better than yours! ...... How are you today? I've got more important things to worry about! Besides, I really don't have the time; and I don't really care anyway ....!!! It's too late; we've gone too far.Veteran Cosmic Rocker, the things that you express in this thread - I think are along the lines of what I've said here too. Man has evolved in such a way that we no longer experience much unity amongst our society. In so far as Man has achieved tremendous progress in the fields of science and technology, he has digressed in the evolution regarding the quality of his relationship with his own kind. So, the real question here is whether he has made any progress at all. Progress is defined as forward movement in a positive way towards a positive goal. It is not a positive thing to change from being a society who used to care enough about one another to the point where they chose to patronize each other's businesses so that each would benefit and prosper, which resulted in the group as a whole coming out on the top - to a society who chooses to pay another country to machine it's parts just to save a buck, without a thought for his neighbor next door or the good will and mutual benefit that is fostered when the corporation gives the work to the guy next door .... in the olden days, even if it did cost more to hire your neighbor, that was okay; because they thought that one hand washing the other was the right thing to do. And, it was - because that kind of behavior promotes cohesiveness and makes us like one another. That kind of consideration flows down into the tendency to have consideration for our planet. Look what the Industrial Revolution has done to it. Progress? I think not. Progress is moving forward. The damage that man's forward movement has caused; and continues to cause; the planet can hardly be called progress - conversely, it is appropriate to call it retrogression. Sincere Regards, Michaela _________________________________________________________ "They will never make a perfect heart until they make one that can't be broken." ....... The Wizard, "The Wizard of Oz" ________________________________________________________
Oh, c'mon guys! Campfirejam can read long posts, why can't you?! I can tell she read it because her response about things being fucked up was right on. Maybe you can try and think of it as a story that I'm telling you, except that all my posts contain true facts about things as they are, or things as they were, in the world as I see it. I care about things, in a general way - and I like to share the things I've learned about certain subjects with others that would be interested in enlightening themselves as well - then they can teach me something; then we can all pool our ideas, and you never know ..... maybe if we all work together instead of working apart; maybe, just maybe; we can do our small bit for making the world a better place in which to live. There's power in numbers, you know. Hey, why don't you read long posts, anyway? It's like you look at a post, and see that it's long, and straight away you decide in your mind that since it's long, there musn't be anything in it you'd be interested in. How do you know that if you don't even read it? Maybe they didn't make reading interesting enough for you in school. Or maybe every time you had to read something that was long, it was boring, so you think all long stuff will be boring. Who knows? I want to make this post short so you'll read it, so I'll just write the rest of the stuff I was gonna say here in another post, okay? I am just trying to be a good elder and hand down what I know to be true to those that come after me to help empower you as you travel forward through your lives. I come from a position of caring. Sincere Regards, Michaela ________________________________________________________ "They will never make a perfect heart until they make one that can't be broken." ....... The Wizard, "The Wizard of Oz" __________________________________________________________
Okay, already! Hey, check out my last post here - I'll betcha it was two-thirds less than my first one. Anyway, anytime you read anything, you're doing it for you - not for anyone else. You're reading for you! If you try to force yourself to read my long post, you might be doing yourself a favor. Basically, I speak out about why things in America are changing for the worse; and therein lies the answer as to how we can get back to being a better society by being nicer to each other, etc. I noticed that every one of you guys that responded to my long post are in your early twenties or younger. You need to understand that you kids that are in the process of becoming young adults are the next Generation, and the future of the planet really does depend a lot on what you guys do as you take over the reins, as it were. The Powers That Be in the generation that came before you are handing you the world all tattered and in a really fucked up condition. You've got a hell of a responsibility on your hands, but the world can be made into a better place - there are just a lot of things that must change in how we conduct ourselves and how we live our lives on a day-to-day basis. It's up to you - you can do it! Regards, Michaela ________________________________________________________ The only limitation is your imagination ....... ________________________________________________________
Campfirejam didn't necessarily read that whole post...she just understands the fuckedupityness of the world as we know it.
Hey! Sure she does; she demonstrates insightfulness that is unusual for a youngster - but she would have to have read my post to know that, and your statement tells me you did too! Cool! Incidentally, I really love your word "fuckedupityness" !! It's a very useful descripter to use these days to describe how things are, unfortunately. Regards, Michaela _____________________________________________ "They will never make a perfect heart until they make one that can't be broken." ....... The Wizard, "The Wizard of Oz" ____________________________________________
