College Are For Fools

College "are" for fools? Keep your job at McDonald's!

 

I believe he intended it on being Colleges Are For Fools, seeing as the person actually went through the trouble of capitalizing a title on an internet forum.

Take it with a grain of salt, but that's just my theory to end the personal attacks against this being.

 

Aren't you supposed to pursue post-secondary studies to ''learn''
I mean the whole point of education is to get some knowledge and to learn ...

 

for real brotha!

 

I don't know about that^^^^^ America is pretty determined to make sure you feel like unless you get a good job and make tons of money you're going to be a fuckin loser your entire life. They could really care less about your post-secondary education.

 

If society thinks I'm a loser...I'm pretty OK with that...and so should everyone else.

 

People don't like money because society tells them too. People like money because its a hell of a lot more convenient, fun, and stable.

I've lived poor and I've lived comfortably and I'll tell you which was a billion times more enjoyable.

 

im going to college right now....it aint because i want to make a lot of money(cause with my major, i probably wont)
I just like to learn....hell, I would love to be a career college student.....ya know, get a degree in 18th century russian poetry or something off the wall

 

you know, in germany, where all schooling is paid for, you could do that. they have the raddest education system ever.

 

I went to a public university in the US right after graduating a private high school in Honduras... truly a mistake. The US education system is so weak and flawed that I feel like I haven't learned a single thing in a year and a half of schooling. The classes are a joke, the teachers lack brains, and the entire system just does not seem to work for me. College, like everything else in American society, is targeted towards the averge American. I am far from the average American... so I am doing the logcal thing to do... dropping out, and hitting the road again. I'm well traveled as it is (backpacked Central America, Europe, and the Middle East) but there is more out there, and more that I need to see. I can get a Writing degree from my uni and keep it in my pocket, but I do realize that it won't help me in life.

My parents are strongly against this, but oh well... I am old enough to not listen to them, and they should have realized that I cannot sit in the same place for so long.

 

I always like what you say.





Like some people said, go to college if you want to. Everyone has their own path they need to find & that's one thought on the journey of life.

Also, like some said, if that's your beliefs on outsourcing, do something that won't be. It depends a lot on your major.

 

Most of the jobs that have been sent over seas so far have been blue collar manufacturing jobs, where most people didn't have degrees. We still have a bit of time before all the college jobs goes.

 

It really isn't the colleges that are the problem at the moment.

It's that teachers aren't rewarded for their efforts. They're treated like machines and it becomes pressure forced onto students because they have to meet deadlines and requirements for standardized testing. People don't get the proper preparation needed for college and it ends up being that people get tossed into developmental classes if they go to community college or uni, etc. So you're, in the end, putting more of a burden upon teachers to do more stuff in less time while recieving no money for extra efforts or talents that they may have in aid to the education system or process. Everyone is expected to progress, be treated, and learn at the same level and it doesn't take a certain kind of mind to realize that, in the real world, things just don't work this way. You're also forced to cope with a steadily increasing population and compete with the housing market, living in the Southeast (as I do), due to a migrating Northern region. So, on a hunch: if you live in the Southeast, you'll probably have shittier schools with a higher student to teacher ratio, where as if you live in the Southwest (say Phoenix area), you'll be faced with better schools and just as many people moving there from up North, at the moment. The Southwest is getting better funding in terms of population growth, which, in comparison to the Southeast, really isn't.

It says we don't care about teachers, and that basically says that nobody really cares about students. So, if you don't have students or teachers you're now missing 1) A logical point 2) An education system.

I mean, sweet Jesus... I'm in the gifted program and that's been able to show me that it's a load of crap, now. The No Child Left Behind act has led to the downfall of gifted education extensions and programs, as well as people with intellectual disadvantages or diseases. These areas recieve just as much lack of attention these days as the American middle class. The gifted education systems end up becoming job positions, and that's pretty much it. I go to the regional governor's school in Virginia (Hampton Roads) and I love it quite much. It's just that I see so many teachers struggling to hang on and they're getting tired of it. I've got an English teacher who is thinking about quitting and going into plumbing. My geography teacher said she would retire when they didn't allow pearing knives in classrooms... and she did. She now works at a gas station... I see her every few days.

So.......... in the end, truthfully, you're sent in a circle for 12 years while your tax money goes to big school board administrators and state officials , or cut altogether, and are expected to survive in a college atmosphere once it's completed. Yes, we have desks, we have books, but a half-assed education system is no better than a broken education system. And with the way things in the country have been going by focusing on partisan politics, it'll be a broken one if someone doesn't catch it quick.

Which is what I've been saying to left and right extremists since the first election... I don't know why it takes the general public this long to catch on.

 

Personally, I'm pretty darn excited for college.

 

Why are our jobs being outsourced?

What is your opinion on stopping this?

By the way, where are you from?

 

I'm Canadian, but we face a lot of the same issues.

At any rate, to keep jobs in the country, the big thing is to keep up labour productivity. This is done through capital investment, both physical (where America needs to fix its savings-investment process) and human capital (ie: post-secondary education, although not necessarily through colleges).

 

Who is going to pay this capital investment?

Who's going to put in a capital investment when labor & the materials are much cheaper to cost at an affordable rate in another country?

 

Tweakers...

 

I know this is hard to believe, but labour price is only a small, small part of where people decide to invest.

Quality/quantity/design of infrastructure, quality of human capital (most jobs require training), relative strength of the dollar, stability of the dollar, stability of the regime, shipping, etc.

Think about how much foreign investment is currently in the US. Think about how much money is Americans currently have invested in the US.

You're arguing, with little to no knowledge (I'd say closer to no, but that's just me), against a huge consensus of economists who've been studying this scientifically for decades.

 

Relative strength of the dollar, stability of the dollar, stability of the regime, shipping, etc from some place like China is pennies off the American dollar, which makes overseas businesses profit largely from their cost defect. Selling their merchandise in the US double sometimes triple the cost it took to produce & ship.

It's relatively simple, set up a factory in a 3rd world country, like lets say Kurdistan, pay the employees pennies on a dollar, import an India native who has a US college diploma in the field, pay him/her half an American citizen would work for in the same job. Half or a quarter of the cost for shipping & sell that product in stores such as Walmart for triple the original cost. You know what that equals the company? Yup, you guessed it $$$.

Foreign companies product manufacturing cost = $0.14
Foreign companies shipping cost = $1.00
Store Wholesaler cost = $3.69
Cost to the American consumer = $5.99
Foreign companies profit = $2.55 per item

Like I suggested before, we end free trade & make it harder for foreign companies to come in & control consumer markets. But I guess that wouldn't benefit you because you're Canadian.