What is more accurate ? Western or Chinese ?

What is more accurate ? Western or Chinese ? Zodiac.

According to Western Astrology I'm an Aries
In Chinese Horoscope I'm Goat, which = Cancer in the Western.

Find that inernally (deep inners) the Chinese rules more, the external is more typicall Aries, what about you ?? Or as If when i'm cool it is more like the Chinese Sign, and when Hot it is more the Western Sign.

For some assistanse here is summary of The Chinese Zodiac from (http://whisperingworlds.com/angel/angels.php)

Warning: its known that each Chinese sign is divided further into: Wood, Water.. Etc. If you do not like to reveal your age exactly, just mention the sign, i.e. Goat - but NOT Woodn goat for example because this means you are born in 1956 or 1955...etc.

RAT

Ranking order : First
Hours ruled by the RAT : 11pm - 1am
Direction of its sign : Directly North
Season and principal month : Winter December
Corresponds to Western sign : Sagittarius
Fixed Element : Water
Stem : Positive

OX

Ranking order : Second
Hours ruled by the OX : 1 am - 3 am
Direction of its sign : North-Northeast
Season and principal month : Winter-January
Corresponds to Western sign : Capricorn
Fixed Element : Water
Stem : Negative

TIGER

Ranking order : Third
Hours ruled by the TIGER : 3 am - 5 am
Direction of its sign : East-Northeast
Season and principal month : Winter-February
Corresponds to Western sign : Aquarius
Fixed Element : Wood
Stem : Positive

RABBIT

Ranking order : Fourth
Hours ruled by the RABBIT : 5 am - 7 am
Direction of its sign : Directly East
Season and principal month : Spring - March
Corresponds to Western sign : Pisces
Fixed Element : Wood
Stem : Negative

DRAGON

Ranking order : Fifth
Hours ruled by the DRAGON : 7 am - 9 am
Direction of its sign : East-Southeast
Season and principal month : Spring - April
Corresponds to Western sign : Aries
Fixed Element : Wood
Stem : Positive

SNAKE

Ranking order : Sixth
Hours ruled by the SNAKE : 9 am - 11 am
Direction of its sign : South - Southeast
Season and principal month : Spring - May
Corresponds to Western sign : Taurus
Fixed Element : Fire
Stem : Negative

HORSE

Ranking order : Seventh
Hours ruled by the HORSE : 11 am - 1 pm
Direction of its sign : Directly South
Season and principal month : Summer - June
Corresponds to Western sign : Gemini
Fixed Element : Fire
Stem : Positive

GOAT

Ranking order : Eighth
Hours ruled by the GOAT : 1 pm - 3 pm
Direction of its sign : South - Southwest
Season and principal month : Summer - July
Corresponds to Western sign : Cancer
Fixed Element : Fire
Stem : Negative

MONKEY

Ranking order : Ninth
Hours ruled by the MONKEY : 3 pm - 5 pm
Direction of its sign : West - Southwest
Season and principal month : Summer - August
Corresponds to Western sign : Leo
Fixed Element : Metal
Stem : Positive

ROOSTER / CHICKEN

Ranking order : Tenth
Hours ruled by the ROOSTER : 5 pm - 7 pm
Direction of its sign : Directly West
Season and principal month : Autumn - September
Corresponds to Western sign : Virgo
Fixed Element : Metal
Stem : Negative

DOG

Ranking order : Eleventh
Hours ruled by the DOG : 7 pm - 9 pm
Direction of its sign : West - Northwest
Season and principal month : Autumn - October
Corresponds to Western sign : Libra
Fixed Element : Metal
Stem : Positive

PIG

Ranking order : Twelfth
Hours ruled by the PIG : 9 pm - 11 pm
Direction of its sign : North -Northwest
Season and principal month : Autumn - November
Corresponds to Western sign : Scorpio
Fixed Element : Water
Stem : Negative

 

woah i totally disagree with the sign correspondence.

 

i said both, no system is right or wrong, just different interpretations of varying symbolic thought across cultures.

and i am a sagittarius by western standards
and an ox by chinese, however i disagree that this corresponds with capricorn.

 

hahahah

Ok Melodi, but let us take me as an example (not because i'm selfish )

I never thought that i care that much about whom i love, i mean care of course very very much, but never faced my self with what they mentioned
that a goat will feel some thing like panic if he loses a person he/she loves (death not included here), and that is really how was it.

As an Aries, said OK - i will survive as the song says - but deep deep there was a kind of panic - me, the person with nerves of steel (as they say about Aries) - was sure that i will continue living, manage my self well, but there was that panic which is not related to fear if we can say so.

Yes i see my self sometimes as a cancer with too much emotions that should not correspond to an Aries.

Now it is your turn, be prepared for a surprise, actually i was too - look at your signature ? what you see ?

SOCIAL STATUS which corrosponds to CAPRICORN :nopity:

Now i'm freaked but never mind - but you must admit i'm clever !!!

Capricorn or not - We like you Melodi regardless LOL :lol:

Ps. Not drunk - just sneaky

 

Hey Melody !

Would the chinese sign corrosponds to the Moon in the Western ?

Do you have Capricorn as your Moon in the western ?

Mine is Cancer also (think so), although do not know exactly my birth time, mother says it was just after sun set so some times i assume it is 17:00 or 18:00, some times assume it is 12:00 as chart makers say.

That's why i consider my self: a Moon-less person who is also deprived from ascendent (but think it is Libra), but no complains

 

Found that site which talks about the OX, also relation between East & West
Horoscopes, for example the charactristics of Aries-OX, Sag-OX ..etc.

Worth looking: http://www.usbridalguide.com/special/chinesehoroscopes/Ox.htm

see you

 

okay....have you ever re read your posts....the are grammatically confusing.. or something....

and to clarify = i disagree with the chinese discriptions corresponding to western discriptions...for instance, when you read the description of the ox, this is clearly most harmonious with taurus the bull..not because the animal is similar but read their characteritics...goodness...

and the pig = scoripo? nah ah.....

i'll be honest here and proclaim that i could make better matches...is all.
yes yes...because i have leo rising and sun conjunct mercury and always think im right....and i am

 

I AM!!!! lol sorry, i kid

but even in numerology etc, and their correspondence with the planets...i think that is off..... uranus=4 and saturn=8 mars=9 pluto=11 (well i do not dispute that so much)....sorry....no

try saturn=4 and pluto=8 uranus=9 chiron=11

 

Ok, i admit it - I never re-read my posts or letters or E-mails - think it is more true then plus i'm full of ideas who cares about grammer .

Also agree that the OX sounds a lot like Taurus, and the Pig = Pisces.

Actually i just was writing you about that, if we give the usual Western order,
i.e. Aries, Taurus ..etc to the Chinese Signs so Rat = Aries, and OX = Taurus ..etc It then makes much more sense specially in the field of relations.

In this case I'm a RAT, and you are a Moneky :lol: No offense - it is just signs lol.

 

well, im gonna do some research and post what i think best fits. i like being a monkey, i love monkeys

 

Dear Melodi - Are you Drunk ?

Saturn is 4 or 8 ?

You mean i'm 9 , so when people ask me about my sun sign - i should reply: i'm 9 ??!!! come on.

And what you mean try saturn = 4 ? OK i tried - nothing happened

ha ha ha

 

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Me too - i like being a RAT also - ha ha ha

Rats will inherit Earth after all, and they are never fat, and they run quickly

:mickey:

 

hmmm

 

Do i make you mad Melodi ? i do not mean too - really !