Dreaming/smoking, lucidity, and the deep end.

Does anyone else find that smoking herb supresses dreams? I've known several people, including my partner, who claim not to dream at all when they've been smoking regularly. (I recognize this as almost certainly untrue, but their dreams are probably just not very intense or memorable...)

Personally, I am a very strong dreamer and always have been. I've been able to dream lucidly for as long as I can remember. But when I haven't been smoking I've found that my dreams become exponentially more intense, longer, and more stressful. Even when I'm lucid they're more stressful. I've been blindingly sober these last few days to to a broken bank account/rent check due, and it's really messing with me in my dreams. I've even tried some simple stretches, exercise, and meditation before bed to try and relax and clear my mind, but to no avail.

What most freaks me out is, (and this has happened before, several times) I've been acheiving lucidity, recognizing my dream state for what it is, and somehow I'm mentally blocked from the ability I usually have to alter the dream or even wake myself up. It really freaks me out! (and that's putting it lightly).

The only explanation I can think of is that I'm in another place, if that makes any sense. Like, normally when I dream, I'm within my own head, and when I'm lucid I can change what happens in this little head-world of mine. But a few years ago I had this experience when I was with my first love, in a long distance relationship of sorts, and we used to dream together. Like, literally, we would be having a conversation in our dream and both wake up and remember the same exact thing. We could call one another and continue the conversation without skipping a beat. It seems like something like that wouldn't happen within my own head, but perhaps we were on some other plane of existence. Maybe that's where I'm going when I dream lately.

In any case, in all the research I've done I haven't found anything like this. I think I may have even posted something similar last year when the same thing was bugging me. But I wanted to know if anyone has had any similar experiences, has any suggestions, or anything that might help? Sleep without herb is seriously screwing with me, and I feel like I'm going off the deep end! Help?

 

in my case

not smoking weed + reading (anything) helps my dreams

when i've been smoking i don't really dream that much

 

Hmm. One more who's noticed the correlation. I wonder what makes the difference...

See, that's the thing, though. I don't *want* to be having these freaky, vivid, intense dreams. I wish there were some other way I could suppress them or something. When I'm my "normal" it's fine but when I'm not smoking (which for me is abnormal) this always seems to happen. I feel f*cking crazy!

 

we're all crazy really

 

well nevermind to all that

i was high last night (although i had "comedown" before i fell asleep)
and i had some pretty nonsensical, absurd dreams

 

Have you ever tried smoking Calea Zacatechichi?? It is an all out dream trip if you prepare it or smoke it properly before sleep. I've had much experience with it after buying a large quantity of it off ebay the way i usually go buying legal i-net herbs. But this stuff isn't bullshit and it will really help you refocus your dream theme or even state of mind to more than dreams, calea allows you to have visions, for me vivid, landscapes opened before me with strange and wonderous things. Patterns abounded in the dreams. I got the destinct feeling I was leaving my own dreamscape and entering others. I mean all it really is, is an all out dream trip even if you become lucid even though its never happened to me....hope this cures your dream tribulations if you try it!

 

where can you get that stuff?

 

i too have always been able to dream lucidly, ever since i was really little. and i too find i dont dream as much when ive been smoking weed eccesivley which normally i am. recently though i had to stop smoking because i had an abcess in my throat & that week my dreams were just out of control. it scared me a little. haha so fear not, you arent alone

 

smoking herb makes my dreams more intense, but less frequent. They are very vivid, but I find that if I go to sleep high, I sleep more soundly and don't recall as many dreams as I usually do.

 

I agree with the above person.

 

Yeah, that seems to be the consensus. Nobody "doesn't dream". But most people seem not to have very memorable dreams when they smoke. I almost always remember my dreams, whether I've been smoking or not, but the feel of them drastically changes, like I mentioned above.

I feel much better now that we've had a little smoke these last couple days.

Baloonatic, thanks for that! Knowing I'm not the only one makes me feel better!

 

when i was smoking alot of pot... i did not have many dreams... i think my sleep was so deep that i couldnt recall anythnig.

 

i dunno, but the last i smoked weed was on sat. morning
which i know wasn't very long ago
but last night i had some intense dreams
dreams that just kept goin'
even when i would wake up for a bit, and then close my eyes
they'd just pick up where they left off

it was pretty neat

 

I usually don't remember my dreams, If I had to take a guess I'd say I remember one dream a week. I smoke fairly regularly but this has always been the case for me. Right now I don't have any weed and its been a week since I've last smoked but I still don't recall any dreams, so I haven't really noticed any correlation between the two but thats probably just me.

 

Alright so right around when a week turned into a week and a half without smoking I started dreaming every night. Nothing crazy but I was recalling dreams 3 or 4 nights in a row which was noticeable. So maybe there is a correaltion. I have since ended my streak and no dreams to speak of.

 

I dont know if this is the same, or really what lucidty means. But I have reocuring dream's almost all the time. I can remember what happens, and I can even change them. I can make differnt choices, or take differnt paths. It's kind of like, usually in a real intense moment, then Im like wait... ok i have been here before. I can almost always pull myself through it/or take a differnt reaction.
I really really wish we knew what dreams ment, or what they were singinling. I love dreaming, I love having nightmares. I have found that in all my dreams, if not going my way, I can wlays find a crutch to take advantage or take over situations. Even though some awfull thing's may happen, I can usually make out for the better. And only once in my trillion dreams that I can vaugly remember have I ever died.

 

Yeah, scudrehab, that's pretty much lucidity in a nutshell. You're lucid-dreaming when you recognize you're in a dream and are able to "guide" your dream that way. For instance (and this is the most common, most cliche example) you can realize the opportunity, and allow yourself to fly over the town. Or whatever... :tongue:

And FTR, I still think there's a correlation between smoking and dreaming. I've had more people confirm than deny this, here and IRL. Just haven't come across any actual research to back me up...