http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyID=2006-11-19T174004Z_01_N19349552_RTRUKOC_0_US-USA-POLITICS-DRAFT.xml&WTmodLoc=PolNewsHome_C1_%5BFeed%5D-8 More troops!
i posted this in another thread in answer to this proposal... what i'd like to see is the people who support the war to actually go to the war. now what this character proposing a draft is saying is that it makes sense to have a draft because people have more to lose if america has a war and thus will not vote for warmongers, so you see by proposing and implementing a draft you actually create peace by having a draft of young people into the armed services put simply his logic is - WAR IS PEACE. by the same token i would like him to first propose that the president and all politicians who have supported warlike measures regardless of age or ability to immediately serve in the frontline units for a year before any draft comes into effect(this means in the worst case scenario - even if they are being wheeled in a hospital bed into a firefight or wielding a white cane and hearing device to see and hear where they are going). by this measure america can more effectively prevent war occurring rather than have a draft alone, why because it makes the policy makers more accountable for their voting preferences - vote for war and you must be in that war, at once, at the frontline taking "point" i believe its called. my logic is - WHATS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER.
Well, maybe just as nutty. Bush said that the fiscal year ended on February 30th. Wonder what he was thinking. .
are you kidding? a draft policy? i heard this may effect canada too. what a fucking load this iraq war is bs
It was BS before there was any talk of a draft. If it takes talk of a draft to get younger folks involved with the political process then so be it. I seriously do not want to see draftees killed in a war they want no part of but if apathy on a grand scale has enabled things to unfold as they have then in general the society deserves what happens to them. Wars based on lies and deceit are especially bad ideas. Those who perpetrate illegal aggressions need to be held responsible for what they did and those who stood idly by and did nothing are accessories.
Id also like to see everyone who wants their trash picked up to become a trashman. The armed forces seem to moslty support, well, the armed forces. Im no big fan of war, but like it or not that is indeed a fact. Just my 2 cents.
I was listening to a news report on NPR this morning about Rangel and his crazy idea of the draft. The commentator said that he doesn't have any more support for this than he did a few years ago when he first proposed it. I sureinthehell hope that's true.
Any career congressman worth his salt hopes it's true as well. As long as people don't feel personally threatened by what our government does they are going to roll over and allow politicians mortgage rights and freedoms away to the high bidder.... and wage illegal wars that defend the means by which multinational corporations enrich themselves at the expense of the working poor.
well why i would agree with most of what you said, the poor pay relitivly no taxes and all armed forces members are not "poor" and actually many of them are well educated. While you dont have BS to die most are not total rejects. Many of our people in power have actually been in the armed services. Say what you want about those who pull the strings, but dont, well, lie about the ones supporting and fighting it. i do neither before im painted as doing so.
some of you people act as if this is the first time! well its not! He tried this in 2003 and it DID NOT work. "In 2003, Rangel proposed a measure covering people age 18 to 26. It was defeated 402-2" Even Rumsfeld did not agree and pretty much told him "no". In 2004, he voted against it himself and told other Democrats to do it too. I think this man is simply insane. and, in his backwards ass way, he thinks it will help: "This president would never have invaded Iraq if indeed we had a draft, and members of Congress thought that their kids would be placed in harm's way.” — Rep. Charles Rangel, proposing reinstating a draft as a way of deterring politicians from launching unnecessary wars But like I said, he is insane. I call him a dumbass for not finding a better solution
yes well theres a whole world of difference between getting rid of trash and being sent to war. and anyway why do you think this? surely you have some sort of logic to back this statement up?
I hate rengal but I think there is something behind this, he doesn't want a draft he wants people who are on the fence right now about the iraqi war (mostly young people) to get angry and up in arms and stand up against the war, if it takes a draft to get that done...oh well. I know if i get drafted im not going nowhere.
After reading over this and the other draft thread, and by-passing the obvious "making a mountain out of a mole hill" comments, I can't help but wonder... how many of ya'll got drafted? I recieved my draft notice the first week in August, 1967. Peace, poor_old_dad
The rich will always find a way to avoid the draft like GWB did. But I think the repubs may be afraid that the middleclass might wake up if their children faced a draft. The government has crippled out military through cuts, base closing and privatization of certain aspects. What else can they do now that public opinion has swerved course if they want to build their resources now? I hope it doesn't happen. I like poor old dad experienced it. Why do you think you youngsters still register when you turn 18? if it's not a possibility.
