Why be vegetarian ?

Discussion in 'Vegetarian' started by Gringo Starr, Aug 21, 2004.

  1. Gringo Starr

    Gringo Starr Banned

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    Cannot understand it.The whole tofu soja stuff has no taste and you lack calcium,protein etc.Being vegetarian is so unnatural.
     
  2. Chronic4:20

    Chronic4:20 Member

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    also pointless
     
  3. Orsino2

    Orsino2 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Cannot understand it. That's your problem. The whole tofu soja stuff has no taste Learn how to cook. and you lack calcium,protein etc. Well, if you do, that's just being a dumbass and maybe you should learn before doing something. Being vegetarian is so unnatural. If being vegetarian is so unnatural then what's so natural about eating meat with hormones and chemicals in it.
     
  4. Gringo Starr

    Gringo Starr Banned

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    All you vegetarians always pretend to love and respect animals.But tell what is worse,eating animals or eating their food,so that they will cruelly starve in the end?
    Did you know that there never was a war between 2 countries having a McDonald.Without meet the whole world would collapse!
    By the way how can you judge the taste of meat without ever trying it?
     
  5. Orsino2

    Orsino2 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    All you vegetarians always pretend to love and respect animals. I do. But tell what is worse,eating animals or eating their food,so that they will cruelly starve in the end? ... you know, it takes more grain to FARM animals then it does if you would eat the grain to begin with.
    Did you know that there never was a war between 2 countries having a McDonald. What's your fucking point. Without meet the whole world would collapse! Without M-E-A-T you might collapse because of your ignorance...not that it's a bad thing.
    By the way how can you judge the taste of meat without ever trying it Because it's not like I was raised vegetarian. I have the mental capacity to make my own decisions about what I want to consume. I was omnivore for 13 years.
     
  6. acetonephish

    acetonephish lickage

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    All you vegetarians always pretend to love and respect animals.

    Huh? That really makes no sense, why would we feel the need to "pretend" to love and respect animals? It would be like someone pretending to love and respect you. Whats the point when it wouldn't make sense?

    But tell what is worse,eating animals or eating their food,so that they will cruelly starve in the end?

    So wait... you're all of a sudden preaching about animal rights?? What?? What happens to the animals rights when theyre skinned alive, never see the light of day, suffer from broken bones their whole lives, etc... By the way, quick little fact for you: 75% of the grain sent to 3rd world nations goes to livestock production. Since you're so anti-animal rights ( although it is a bit confusing on where you stand...) you'd think you'd prefer to have the grain go to the starving children in those third world nations rather than the cows.


    Did you know that there never was a war between 2 countries having a McDonald.

    Actually, that was true a few years ago, but now it is just an urban legend. And whats your point? The fact that there are mcdonalds in those countries doesn't make a difference.

    Without meet the whole world would collapse!

    Wait... what? Thats contradictory in itself. Livestock production causes pollution, deprivation of food in third world nations, deforestation, and when consumed can cause various types of cancer.

    By the way how can you judge the taste of meat without ever trying it?

    Most people become vegetarians after being omnivores for a long period of time. They usually make this decision because they don't like how the animals are treated in the farming facilities, and/or what the farming facilities do to the earth.
     
  7. DoktorAtomik

    DoktorAtomik Closed For Business

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    Troll. Ignore it.
     
  8. Oh So strangE indeeD

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    ahahahahahha this made me laugh. Some people are so stupid.
     
  9. inbloom

    inbloom as the crow flies...

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    exactly. just out to piss us off, don't even respond.
     
  10. Loki84

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  11. Dalee

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    Stupidiest thread Ive ever seen.

    For one, eating grains, fruits, and vegetables doesnt deprive animals of their food at all, in fact, it SUPPORTS animal life.

    Secondly, it has been studied over and over, and verified by leading researchers around the world that the plant kingdom is more than suitable for providing ALL THE PROTEIN A HUMAN COULD NEED.
    The average person needs 20-45 grams of protein a day, and you can get that from a healthy vegetarian diet easily.

    Also, why is being vegetarian pointless? To REFRAIN from eating meat is pointless? So ghandi....buddha....and all the others are just....doing pointless acts of what? not hate.....not anger.....pointless acts of KINDNESS I suppose?


    Here are some links for your to research if you REALLY want to know why vegetarianism is a positive:


    www.cleanse.net
    www.peta.org
    http://www.essene.com/Vegetarian/vegan.htm




    I suggest you read these sites with an open-mind, instead of the close-mindedness you portrayed while posting this.
     
  12. Dalee

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    Also, I am curious as to what is UNNATURAL about NOT killing something?


    Yes....many animals on this planet kill to eat. Have you ever considered the fact, however, that many animals DONT kill to eat?

    How about the animals we are closest to? Did you know they are vegetarians too. Gorillas, monkeys, chimpanzees....all vegetarian.

    I guess they are stupid and are all going to die from lack of meat though.



    EDIT:

    I just wanted to add I'm not even vegetarian, I'm just sticking up for truth. I eat small servings of meat (3oz or so) about 2-3 times a week, generally speaking I only eat meat because of taste (selfishness) no other reason.

    I definately would not eat meat everyday, because I know my body well enough to know that it does more harm to me than good. I become aggressive, sluggish, angry, tired, confuzed, etc from eating meat too frequently. I happen to be sensitive to food (and light..heat, etc), so I notice a huge difference when I refrain from meat eating.
     
  13. lucyinthesky

    lucyinthesky Tie Dyed Soul

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    LOL
    that's the stupidest comment i've ever heard in my life.
    too...much...to make fun of.....brain.....hurting.....can't.......pick...just...one......dsoafi[ihfdgo'idfg
     
  14. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    I dunno why I'm supporting this trollish thread in the vegetarian forum, I shouldn't even be responding, cause I'm not a vegetarian, and I feel that arguing with someone about their dieatery choices, particularly when its based on a moral standpoint,
    is at best superficial, and completely pointless.

    But I don't agree with a lotta propaganda being sputed by animal advoacy groups,
    particularly PETA, so hear me out.

    Point 1: raised by Orisiono2, 'whats so natural about eating meat with hormones and chemical in
    it'.

    Thats the only point you raised here, and any animal natuarally has hormones and thousands of chemials in it, I dont
    see why injecting an animal with extra proteins and hormones to increase its size (If an animal is larger, less have to be killed to meet demand) is unnatural, I think the point he
    was trying to raise was lack of dietary sustainence.

    Point 2: Dietary sustainence: While its completely true that you can meet the basic amount of protein a person needs with a veggie diet, Iron deficancy is a major problem with a vegitarian diet. I'm sure you've hear that certain vegetables contain adequete amounts of iron, while this is true, Iron doesn't metabolise from vegetable sources very effeciently,
    If your a vegetarian, you need to take supplements. (not very natural, but I don't have a problem with that) b12 cannot be obtained by a vegan diet without supplements, and neither can vitamin D. If your a vegeterian, you should be very careful to eat wisely, and vegetarianism isn't a inherently more healy alternative to eating an omnivorous diet. Please consider your dietary needs before doing anything rash. its very dificult to maintain a proper diet without eating meat, and you should consult a doctor.

    point 3: land usage: Another falacy is that if nobody consumed meat, we would be able to feed the entire world. This is naive and simplistic. Primarily you should consider that two thirds of the land mass on earth is not suitable for farming, and this is the land that is primarly used for graising animals raised for food purposes.

    Something else you should consider is that even if the land the US converted from grasing teritory to farming land (which wouldn't be very good for the enviorment) we still wouldnt be able to feed the world with it. shipping that much produce would be astomoically expensive, and even if it were possible from an economical standpoint, most vegetables rot fairly quickly, and wouldn't be able to be shipped and distriubeted halfway acroos the world anyway.

    Thats all I feel like saying for now, and I understand where a lot of vegetarins are comming from, but the point they should be making is they dont want animals to die to fulfill their diet, and not making vauge, and sometimes disgusting arguments to propagate their point...

    What I'm talking about is PETA... the dispicable wing of the animal rights movement... seriously what do you expect from a group which puts ethical in its name.

    First off, PETA fisically supports the ALF, a group that firebombs animal research facillities.

    Secondly, PETA protest animal shelters which, despites all the shelters efforts, have to euthanize animals to save them from starvation. Its terrible, but these shelters do all they can to find loving homes for these animals. But heres the kicker, PETA themselfs Eutahanize animals... about two thirds of the animal PETA took in in 2002 were euthanized. Ingrid Newkirk herself said "sometimes the only kind option for animals is to put them to sleep forever."

    Thirdly, PETA doesn't support the idea of a person having pets... they want 'total animal liberation'... hope that sinks in to any pet owners giving there money to PETA.

    And this one is the best... while PETA biahametly denounces animal research, the VP of PETA, mary beth sweetland, is a diebatic... she uses insulin every day, derived from animal testing, while she supports a group which firebombs animal testing facilities. Despicable hypocrite...

    If you wanna convince me of any advantages of vegetarianism, dont post anything from PETA...

    Anyway, i guess i got derailed from my point... I dont wanna argue about a moral standpoint on vegetarianism... and I think the fact that you dont want to kill another living creature to feed yourself is valid, I just dont see the the point of meaningless propaganda... do it for yourself.
     
  15. acetonephish

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    I don't need to hear bullshit. If I wanted to, I'd turn on the news and watch George Bush give a speech.
     
  16. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Bullshit is everwhere kid.
     
  17. Barefoot_Surfer

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    The thing about tofu is it sucks flavour up like a sponge. So learn how to marinade. If you can't do that you shouldn't really be cooking.

    Matt
     
  18. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    I also dont reccomend cooking for people who are bad around knives or hot stuff.
     
  19. BellaItalia77

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    I honestly don't know why you guys freaked on the original poster...it was a simple question/statement, and he was searching for a legit. answer to it. To be perfectly honest, I've wondered a few things about vegetarians also.

    It doesn't mean that he's stupid and ignorant and blahblahblah...instead of treating him like a moron, teach him & help 'em understand more about being a vegetarian. That way, he won't come in here asking 'stupid' questions again. :confused:
     
  20. Dalee

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    Bella, it was not the content of his post, but rather his general attitude towards vegetarianism that made him look agressive, unintelligent, and ignorant.


    You can be perfectly healthy, mentally and physically by being vegetarian. It's been done for the past 5,000 years ATLEAST, and literally millions of humans have lived successful lives without ever tasting the dead flesh of another being.


    Again, like I said, I am not vegetarian. I enjoy eating meat on occasion, but I admit that it is NOT for health, it is strictly for taste.


    Studies HAVE indeed shown however that meat eating generally leads to many illnesses, and complications, especially after a good 10-20 years of doing so.


    Meat-eating is unnatural in the way humans do it today. Anyone who differs in opinion is simply wrong. I hate to say someone is wrong, but this is a fact, it is not an opinion, because we 1) cook it, 2) raise the animals in slaughterhouses, and 3) add hormones to them. Not to mention we season the meat as well.

    I'm not saying thats unhealthy (although I believe it is), or immoral (again, my OPINION is that it is) I'm just stating the fact that it IS unnatural to eat meat in the way most people do today. That is a solid fact, if you look in the dictionary and search for "natural".
     

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