Meat Products: Purchase VS. Hunt!

Well.. I realise that it is only the natural way for human beings to eat both meat and vegi products... However, I am still un-comfortable with meat industry... The reason is that when you purchase meat products at the store you are for the most part taking into little consideration the fact that what you are about to lazily purchase is a piece of something that once had a face.. Granted we are all aware of this, but it is still too sugar coated for most really acknoledge it.

Now Do I think eating meat is wrong? of course not. That would be like looking at a wolf as a criminal for eating a badger.. it's simply the way.. But the difference is that the wolf isn't slapping down a wad of cash for it's meal that was bread, and raised to be slaughtered.. The wolf hunted it's prey, worked for the kill, and by himself, with his own jaws completed the meal. I figure if I'm going to eat another animal, I would have warmer feelings about it if I myself hunted it (without the use of a gun of course). But this live-stock industry shows (in my opinion) little respect for the concept of the food chain as well as life in general..

Okay.. I'm done here.. Your thoughts on the subject would be appreciated!

 

My step brother hunts regularly and I've had a lot of good venison and duck from him. Anti-hunting people that aren't strict vegans are hipocrites that burn my ass.

 

i like hunting strawmen...

 

DOES HE SHED A TEAR BEFORE HE SNuFFS OUT A LIFE FOR DINNER?
(caps were unintensional sorry)
& the point of the thread isnt about hunting but the meat industry..that turns beautifil animals into nuggets & burgers that look apealing because they seperate the consumers from the fact that what they buy was once a living being..

 

I grew up eating hunted food, I grew up seeing the food cleaned. I grew up on a farm and we raised our own meat at times. I think that hunting your own meat is far better than store bought considering the things they alter the animals with in the first place so that they are larger etc..

 

only the livestock industry eh?

open your eyes its everywhere, not just there,,,
few in this world respect the concept of life in general anymore,,,,,

where are you going to go and hunt your food? the subdivision next door???? look around you,,,,,it aint just the meat and livestock industry,,,,, you gonna actually eat that fish you just catch on the river in town ??? everyone buys into it all the time even when one doesnt even realize it... its all bout becoming meek lil sheep in the end....

 

I think that's perfect.. If your willing to work for your meal you are respecting the balance of nature and the value of life.. I think after samhain I'm going to boycott the meat industry and eat only what I kill... That would kick.. and yes it was a thread mainly dogging the meat industry.. However everybody's lovely opinions in relation to either matter are greatly appreciated!

I also agree with pearls.. Some of the things people will eat.. I swear... I love life.. I plan to live a long one.. I want to know what's going into my food! I hope to have a big enough living space to grow my own vegis... The movie "Soylent Green" is a class example of what happens when you let industry provide for, and control your basic needs ... Which should be one's oblication unto him/herself by natural law...

and another point was well made.. I've heard my sisters yabbil about how they could never shoot an animal for food immediately after swallowing a hunk of steak.. So as long as it's in the form of a little food-hunk it doesn't matter that the creature had a shitty life (or lack there of) in a pen, hopped up on hormones only to be slaughtered and called "steak" ... Psssh.. give me a break..

*giggles* strawmen vs. G.I. Jos... LET THE GAMES BEGIN!! muahahahaha

Okay.. I'm done for now..

 

I'm a vegetarian and hopefully going vegan soon as i clear out my fridge of all dairy.

anyway....
i believe it is a much better idea to get your meat from hunting rather than from the store. everyone has seen the PETA videos of livestock farms... i wont post em.... i have seen raising livestock first hand. i agree that some farms treat there animals fairly, but many others are just downright mean and gross.
also true for the fishing industry.
so many animals die, and a lot aren't even eaten, there wasted. people waste meat every day not even thinking where it came from.
also a lot of animals get sick/die from man caused diseases, especially in the chicken industry.

hunters, at least ones Ive met, eat most everything they kill, no animal is wasted. the animals they kill have lived a Real life unlike livestock animals who have a caged/confined scheduled life.

also, aside from animals health, i believe it is healthier to eat hunted animals meat as apposed to livestock meat. there are a lot of artificial enhancers that are put into livestock, that are definitely not in free animals.

Hunting>Livestock IMO

 

Yeah I hear you.. that's precisely my point.. I couldn't bear to watch any more when I did look into those vidios, but what I did see was nauseating...

 

I'm sure the cow is really aware of the concept of "respect".

 

I've always found it interesting that folks who wouldn't go into the woods and kill trees, will go into the woods and kill animals. There's also a line of thinking that goes like this:

It's better to get lumber and paper from trees bred, planted and grown to be harvested for that purpose rather than to go into the woods & wilderness and interfere with the eco-system by getting trees there. And it's better to get veggies, fruits & nuts from plants bred, planted and grown to be harvested for that purpose rather than to go into the woods & wilderness and interfere with the eco-system by getting them there. And it's better to get meat from animals bred and grown to be harvested for that purpose rather than to go into the woods & wilderness and interfere with the eco-system by getting it there.

To paraphrase an old saying; I trust the meat industry about as far as I can vomit them.

If you want to be "honest" to the animal you're going to eat, raise it from a baby, look it in the eyes, then kill & butcher it by your own hand. I have done this - as they say, "Been there, done that". And let me tell you, it ain't easy. I discovered that animal husbandry wasn't for me, didn't fit into my little farm and spread me too thin. In recent years I've grown extra tomatoes, peppers, herbs, fruit, shiitake, etc., and barter with other local farmers for meat.

And a word of caution, whether you hunt, raise your own or barter ... knowing the animals aren't diseased and that the meat is properly handled is more difficult than you may think.

Peace,
poor_old_dad

 

why should hippycritz bother you? Being such ah big bad brave killer uv little beautiful innocent creatures.

 

Jailmate, you've probably insulted enough people to get banned by now.

Anyway, if I could hunt, I would. Although hunting is alot different in the UK than the US. I'd rather hunt my meat than buy it pre-packed.

 

listen again kid, thiz iz a site with hip hippyz, nut wet nose wannah be rock starz, jerk.

 

Yes, but you've broken the forum guidlines multiple times by insulting people for no good reason.

 

so nark me out, meh little mini pig.

 

I won't do that, because I'm not a twat, but please tell us why you have so much hate inside you? You're like a Nazi-Hippie.

 

Oh.. I'm glad for so many splendid opinions..

Many good points..

Since I've already added my two cents I suppose all I'm supposed to do now read.. I think between jailmate and mathews this has taken quite an interesting turn!

*giggles*

 

As all intelligent beings can tell from my username, I am a vegan. I am reluctant to agree that hunting is "better" than buying from factory farms, as it may be morally superior, yet by no means justifiable. I am sorry but no, you can not count humans to cows or deer on the same line as wolves to badgers, it is not an anology that I will ever buy. Humans, in being emotionally and morally superior must come to the realization that we, unlike our fox brethren, do not need to eat meat and do not need to eat in such a barbaric of a way as they happen to do. I can not begin to comprehend how so many fools can compare our eating habits to those of animals, and somehow justify eating lamb or pork because of that.

We, as humans are gifted with the ability to realize when an injustice is being perpetuated- unlike foxes. If you want to continue to tear the animal planet in half- as humans have already seemed to succeed in doing, keep hunting and supporting this terrible industry. Again, though I do see hunting as the lesser of two evils, it is certainly not the moral choice.