Woman in society - bitch or angel ?

- really short skirt, really tight jeans, you can also see the belly, too much make up, and you can notice that also the shirt.. isn't something not really decent there? what are those girls ? sluts you'd say... you'd never want such a girlfriend, but admit it, it's interesting to play with !

- try to talk to one of them lollllll!!! what a stupid idea... with just 2 words you start to ask yourself if those girls actually have a brain ??? or maybe they do but don't use it.. keep it for the next life ?

Well I can go on mean like that, and say a lot of bad things, but it's reality... and when you actually hear them calling eachother " hey you slut!" you start to ask if the world got crazy...

But also... let me tell you something that happened once.. I was on a chat and talking on the main and then a guy enters in that room searching for another, and they start talking on the main :
- how was it ? <the first says> fun?
- oh yeahhh mann ! she was so active ... damn nice ! < the other says >
...............
- I'll upload the movies also so you can see < says the 2nd again >
- I'd love to see ....
[...]
What the heck ? I said then... now you girls... how well do you know your bfs ? Surff a bit the net.. maybe you're on show (... on a porn website ofcourse )...

Well... I actually said what I had to say, gave you enough examples. And actually I want to ask something more...
If you're a parent and you have a daughter... what would you think if she'd be the one from my example, that "so active..." girl ? I mean being active it's no problem, but being active on a website ?
If you're a bf.. how would you feel if you have a girl that is sweet, and nice and she's your love, the best... but the jerk of her ex uploaded some... moments ?
Or you're a daughter and you found out some "interesting" things of your mom?

Why do women have such a disrespectfull image in this days ?
we know that every woman is a pure soul... but why do they let us believe so bad things of them ?
And think of something... the girls you laugh now at, you insult now, or just ignore when someone does this ( and are lots of girls like that, and lots that threat them bad ) will be the next's generation mothers. You might say " ok.. ok.. how will this affect me?" ? Think that your son might marry a girl that has that kind of mom. Or think that your girl is watching everyday tv.. and has there some damn good examples of "how to become a slut in just 3 steps "...

What those women feel then ? Do you think they feel happy about that image they have created of themselfs ? I think they need help... I think they feel lost and they suffer a lot.

Can you fall in love with a girl like that ? Where are the pure, delicate girls; when a jerk insults her "f**k you" and she smiles ? ...

Is it a result of our ignorance ? of a bad education? of too much freedom ?

What are women in society ? Bitches or Angels ? Why ? What they should be ? What image do you have of the women I was talking about ( becouse not all are like that.. God thanks! ) ?
Maybe I am over reacting ? Shall I be more optimist ?
I'd like to find out what each of you thinks, maybe I'll feel better... and women keep saying that fight for freedom...

 

So you can tell how smart/nice/sleazy a woman is by the way she dresses? Wow, you're good. A lot of women wear whatever is trendy...in some ancient time periods they hardly wore anything...

If a woman gets filmed having sex without consent and put on the internet it is her fault? Are women who get drugged and raped at fault too?
On the flip side, if a woman consents to being filmed while having sex that is called pornography and it is perfectly legal and not your business, provided she is of age.

I don't get your question about women in society....which women? All women? Or just the ones who fit into those two boxes?

 

Well daisymae, I ment just what I said.
Please refer to those girls that when you see/talk to you get a bad impression.

I ment to have here a discussion about what I said.. if you need to talk about rape stuff, this is not the right theme. but ok, your suggestion... and please refer just to what I've said. OR maybe there isn't this kind of girls there where you live ? Here are lots... still why they almost prostitute themself ? this is the question.

 

also.. why some guys threat them disrespectfull ? give reasons and say why

 

because the human mammal is a very complex creature. we're animals, we're something else. we seek attention and breeding opportunities, but we wanna pick who speaks to us. just like every other animal on the planet.

 

Guys treat a woman disrespectfuly because the guy disrespects the woman. Her clothing do not make people do things, like treat her poorly.

No matter what Vouge says, clothing does not have the power that some claim for it.

Clothes do influance the assumpitons that a viewer will make about a woman. But the responsibility for those assumpitons and the blame, if they are wrong, lie with the assumer.

 

a person can assume all manner of horrible things about a person, yet it still doesn't give that person the right to treat another disrespectfully, is that what you're saying?

 

Yes.

 

so next time I dress provocatively, I shouldnt' be spoken to because I obviously won't have a brain for wearing a short skirt or a low cut shirt?

Big assumptions built into what someone wears my dear.

 

"Bitch" or "Angel" Are those the only two things a womyn can be?

Wow, talk about brainwashed....

As for the rest of the OP's post, I couldn't make heads or tails out of it. What I did understand was nothing more than some preconceptions and stereotypes

 

women

 

the madonna or a whore complex. The idealized woman is one who looks like she has not noticed her sexuality and therefor must be a virgin. People with this complex (both men and women) often have a very unsatisfying sexual life or more common the man cheats and the wife remains sexless except for pregnancy reasons.

You can't win, look at books always at least one modonna and one whore...as long as there are multiple women on this planet there will be people like you that continuously judge and berate good looking women to bolster the image of yourself. convincing yourself you do not want to be one of these vile women who dress in a way you consider trashy, you want to believe you are pristine that badly. OR you really want to be able to be one of those women, you long to be able to pull off made-up looks and to gain attention and for some reason cannot and seek vengence through judgement on women who are beautiful and proud enough to not give a fuck what people like you think.

way to enrich our power sister!

 

Fact- beauty and brains can coexist.

Fact- many people like to bring ogthers who they percieve as threatening, down to their level.... if theyre scum, they make their challenger scum in their minds.

 

the way you dress does not tell anything about a person, although the point is made that male's brain works slightly differently than a female's, maybe evolutionary thing, but lets admit it, they do get turned on a lot easier by female's appearance if she dresses up provocatively.. or they do get turned on a lot easier in general. now IMO, if a woman dresses up provocatively, she not only does it to feel good about herself, but lets admit it, the subliminal message slips in there (somewhere) that she does it to seek male's attention.
now, I strongly believe that a matter of getting offended by a male where no response follows should not be categorized as being.. perhaps low? for I personaly dislike to swear at most circumstances, shall we admit that an argument over an insult only leads to a suspicion of confirmation of that particular insult?