Vegetarian?

We don't need to give you an argument for doing what comes naturally to us.

 

If we go hunting and I shoot you, it's your own damn fault for going hunting with me (at least in the U.S). Especially when I am about to shoot a turkey and you've just run in front of it. That would just make 2 dead turkey's!

 

OK. What do you suggest that we do about deer over-population?

 

It CAN. But it rarely DOES. You won't find too many real doctors that recommend such a diet, at least not without supplements to replace what your body needs and is not getting.

 

Animals have been killing and eating other animals for EVER. We are animals and you know it. Where is that lack of rational thinking that you are implying?

 

Where do you get that idea from? Perhaps you're thinking of veganism; a varied vegetarian diet which includes dairy provides everything the body needs, and actually has been shown to have health benefits.

Vegetarians are also more likely than meat-eaters to eat a wide variety of vegetables, pulses, nuts etc so probably in general eat a more healthy diet than meat-eaters. That's just my guess though...

 

haha, no. you would definitly be charged with murder, the degree of murder is debateable. dont go thinking that just because you shoot a crazy vegetarian while hunting that it is the vegetarians fault, its your responcibility as a hunter to not shoot others around you. and that would only make one dead "turkey"... me.... because once that first shot goes off, the turkey will be long gone.

 

for arguments sake....
if humans eating meat is so natural, then why does it need to be COOKED for us to handle it?

 

Not to be the eternally dissatisfied poster [which I am] but there are a few things to address --

To the person who said she considers herself a vegetarian in some ways -- uh, you're NOT a vegetarian in ANY way if you still eat turkey, chicken, and fish. Vegetarianism doesn't hinge on whether or not you eat red meat.

Gratefulvegan -- not to put too fine a point on it, but I hate vegans who act the way you do. You will never EVER convince a person to go vegan by attacking what they do or how they eat. People who have been raised on meat will rarely be convinced by any "don't eat animals -- it's WRONG" argument.

I believe the best argument for veganism is the health benefits that vegans reap from their diet. As a vegan, my hair is healthier than ever, I have good color in my face, bright eyes, lots of energy, I never get sick anymore, etc.

Plus, it's fucking obnoxious to listen to holier-than-thou, militant vegan arguments. They're just as bad as anti-vegan tirades.

 

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i don't know about that, I'd say the a lot of vegetarians today where once meat eaters, who changed there ways, because they see the cruelty that is going on.

 

Seems like we were both just speculating. Both points seem to have some merit.

 

Tell that to Dick Cheaney. Also, if you go hunting with someone and step in front of what they are hunting, no crime has been committed. It is your responsibility to stay out of the line of fire. Sounds like you haven't been hunting before to me.

 

It doesn't. Any meat can be eatin without cooking. However it is safer, and to most of us tastes better when it's cooked to our liking.

 

so, your telling me you could eat nothing but raw meat and assorted vegetables and still live a safe, healthy life?.... without the risk of getting parasites, salmonella, e. coli, and such?

i don't buy it...

 

thats just false. it IS the hunters responsibility to not shoot others around them. its ignorant to think otherwise. if a hunter shoots a hiker, camper, another hunter, or even an activist, it can be brought into a criminal, and claims court, as ive stated a few times already.

just as the operator of a car has the responsibility to not hit a pedestrian. even if that pedestrian is standing in the middle of the street, because he is an activist against vehicles.

and even though it doesnt matter, yes, i have been out with hunters before.

 

You can, though most likely you will eventually, meat is consumed raw by every other animal and was by humans too before we put fire and cooking together, but fruits and vegetables too can have bacteria on them. Plus one could argue that while there's no meat that can directly kill you, there are highly poisionous mushrooms, berries, ect out there. And as for having to be cooked, so do some vegetables, ever try eating a raw potato, you can do it, but most people would prefer not to.

And also if you're hunting with someone, and they do accidently shoot you, yes you will be charged, but you'll only get a fine, even if you kill them you'll still most likely get a fine and your hunting license revoked, especially if there are witnesses to back you up, and maybe probation, at least in criminal court.

 

yes, chances are that you will get sick from it, sooner or later. and i agree that there are poisonous plants, but thats just my point, there are some things we where just not meant to eat, such as raw meat. and i agree that most people would not want to eat a raw potato, but the human body would fare better if we did, as opposed to worse with eating raw meat. eating raw vegetables provides more nutrients than cooked vegetables.

though i could care less what others eat, i was just making a point that although some animals eat meat(raw), humans eating meat, is not natural, as opposed to what others have implied.

i agree, though i cant say what the charges would be because most court cases aren't so cut and dry. the thought that it would not be the hunters responsibility to assure safety to those around him is just preposterous.

 

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haha, willing wanker, thats hilarious!

hmm.... if i wasn't a willing wanker, wouldn't that make me a self rapist