Drug attitude

fuck... well... the poll didnt turn out to work lol... so Ima just, I dunno... have one those philosophical threads in which I will concentrate on the computer screen so that my thoughts appear a word per second.

humm... you know what man... Im not in the mood right now for that... Im in the mood for time to stop so I can just do whatever the fuck there is to do and pretty much grip onto this so called "present" ...

anyways. hence the title of the thread, I guess this can turn out into a great big DRUG thread;

What do you think happens when you're undergoing a crazy fuckin utopia in your mind and that you can almost fit into any open space in your environment and that your senses are plenty sharpened so that you can practically spread the same feeling in a location into every goddamn location you want. (Psychedelicious experiences)

Its "spiritual" dood.
or perhaps
Its "poison" dood.
or even perhaps...
yes. even perhaps... (notice the emphasis on the "perhaps" making the possibilities furthermore spacious and numerous) ... even perhaps you are finally coming to your senses from this ridiculous "spiritual poison" that makes you come back to your primitive self, just enough to realize that all you see, all you dream, all you sense, hek, all the patterns and all the realms that surround you , yes, only you... ... from the clouds that never cease to confuse our sleeping minds and the grass we never even knew could one day reach them ... a ladybug appeared to make it realizable in our dreams. to make us realize that everything ... all is just a pixel, or imagine a single painting... and from that tiny pixel that never stops to form, and never will end... we finally realize... that when the time will come... we'll already be waiting there... for as long as we dream, this ladybug will never stop creating a universal Utopia for all of us to perceive

 

I think that certain drugs like pot are pretty much harmless and should be legalized. I personally don't smoke it often, but a lot of my friends do and they are still great people. But more addictive and devistating drugs like meth I try to avoid at all costs. But really, I think one of the worst drugs is tabacoo. It's very addictive and has many, if not most, smokers end up with side effects and maybe even death.

 

most drugs are wrong for reasons of them being harmful, cannabis is wrong only because society tells us it is wrong and most people follow that since humans are social creatures and what we do,think, and who we are is what society tells us, whatever rules we break make us deviant.

 

I say legalize it all.

 

lol im sorry dudes thats my thread wasnt edited yet. but ya if you wish we can talk about drugs like that

 

I'd just like to note that that's a fucking fantastic picture.

 

living and dying, poisoning and healing... essential parts of the same things... you can't inhale forever, you can't exhale forever... a painting is never finished, but the frame we freeze between a blank canvas and a neverending pile of paint is the only illusion of permanence that exists. it's ironic... all we have is a persistent lie, that is so tall we can stand on it and see everything that is real below and around and above us, but we can't touch it. somewhere, we decide to stop, to section off a little area and focus on it... and understand it, and live in it... maybe... i don't know. do we? or do we just try to? maybe we don't.

"one those philosophical threads in which I will concentrate on the computer screen so that my thoughts appear a word per second."

i can't do that either right now.


i don't know.
this made me really happy though.
just... everything is connected and beautiful and intricately designed, and... everything is love... and that's not just a concept or an idea, at least, not in my reality...

yep.
mr. pip, you are a fucking amazing person. i think you know that though, or know that i think that. but it can't hurt to say it again.





i'm spiritually confused at the moment. i feel like i need to do something, and i can't figure out how to start it. or what it is.

you said psychedelicious.
i love you.

 

Cool pic.

 

Jesus...You guys are fucked up. You're putting drugs on a fucking pedostal. Drugs are drugs. Period. The good/bad effect depends on the way you use them.

 

i think your past drug use is apparent phil-idocious
quite apparent

 

i dont suport any kinds of drugs,and i really dont like smokers tough most of my friends smoke i just dont understand why??why you need all these things to feel better??there's so many diffrent and definetly better ways in life..maybe im stupid i dont know just my opinion..

 

drugs are not good or bad...thy're like a bridge...nothing more. a bridge that you can cross into...into the relams of your mind. A mind is a beautiful thing...it's the beautiful thing we all talk about. so drugs can get you into your mind but if theres nothing to find, if your not at least a little bit interested in travalling further into your counciosness, then...drugs do nothing for you.

 

That's the problem... people think cannabis is a drug. It's a freakin plant.


Marinol is a drug.

 

And if you think nicotine isn't a hard drug, then why do you imply that you're slightly moreso accepting of those who smoke cigarettes when that does lethal damage to your body?

Same way with alcohol.



Many western cultures seem to condone and encourage blatant ignorance and apathy towards...well, everybody but yourself. Of course, that's kind of human nature in some circumstances, but it seems to be more prevalant in ours, from where I'm standing.

 

Cannabis may be a plant, but when THC is consumed it's a drug. The active chemical is a drug, but the raw substance of cannabis/Poppies/Datura are all plants.

 

Come on Orsino... saying marijuana is just a "plant" and not a "drug" is in the same way ignorant.
It's like when you like something too much and don't wanna admit it's negative attributes.

 

<3

 

It depends on it's context. You know that.

I snap at alot of people who are just like "yeah... let's drink this bottle of Henessey and smoke mad blunts, etc."

It's not my choice, but that kind of thing or when people are all like the $20 guy in Half Baked... it's just annoying and disrespectful. Though I admit have taken it over the top before, (hasn't everyone at some point) you just ease your way into respecting and having a certain etiquette.

The negative attributes also depend on the person. Personally, it doesn't help my allergy problems, but other than that... I don't see any reason why going for a hike in a nature reserve/park, smoking a bowl or two, and praying/meditating every now and then should have many negative attributes. It has stopped me from doing a few other things that I should be doing from time to time, but sometimes that kind of rest is needed... other times you realize things you never would have realized.

Those are the moments that I live for... I feel that it is a gift and embodyment of God, as well as the fruit of mother nature which we have to be thankful for--reminding us that no matter how much money we have or don't have, or our material posessions.. that technology and things like that don't really matter, sometimes, when you're at one. It's all about clarity, you know. If you let it get out of control or don't know what you're doing, you can really trip yourself, there.

It always depends on the context of how things are used. I've said it a million times, I know the difference... a year ago, I was eating Klonopin like cookies, but now I detest it and realize how destructive it could be. There are certain rifts and breaking points within one's deepest core and your body just isn't able to handle processed or manmade things easily.

 

nicely said

 

Yeah. I think cannabis for me has been my catalyst. It's use has been positive, but I have also contributed to many negative effects. Like, for one, when I got really stoned and crashed my truck in to bushes. It was clearly my irresponsibility and I can't blame it on weed, but on my irresponsible use of it. It's helped me see things very clearly, and sometimes too clearly. I see just exactly what I have done wrong, and what I continue to do wrong (by wrong i dont mean inherently, but immobilizing my momentum to further myself as an individual). But that's the problem. It doesn't provide answers. It just poses questions. So it can feel like a dead end at times, and I feel as though I haven't the consistency of mind to tackle any issues, seeing as I'm stoned. I continue to smoke though, and I'm actually waiting for a callback on a dimebag, but I'm going to start keeping a log of my reaction to cannabis. I'm going to decide once and for all if it's worth it for me at this point. Is it helping me? Is it only a distraction to the greatness I could be achieving? Is it just further confusing my adolescent brain? Or could it be stunting my psychological growth. These are things I'm concerned about. I'm not at all concerned about physical side-effects, as I haven't had any yet, except for a sore throat after hitting a glass piece hard. I wonder if my spaciness and lack of alertness has caused my grades to fall, my depression to deepen, or whatnot. But I really don't have anything to look at in relation, as for every moment I live, I live as if it is the only thing that ever will exist. Sometimes it motivates, sometimes it immobilizes me in fear and insecurity. I'm not sure if it's time for a break or not. Advice from people in similar situations would be great!