Well, my question is: What do you women see in older guys?? I mean, what's up with that. Why are older guys SOOOOOOO HOOOOOOT??? I guess i'm asking this, because i always get rejected for some older/with_car/with_money GUY, you know, ring any bell guys?? Why is the older mother FUCKER better than me?? I have the same amount of love, passion, respect and companionship to give, still don't get it. Maybe it's the beard (lol). I'm 19 by the way, and i see LOTS of girls of my age with 28 or 30 year old FUCKERS, i'm so mad. And women are probably asking themselves: "Well, why do guys prefer younger women??" and i have the perfect answer to that gals: Because they're the only ones who notice us, I personally like WOMEN in general, i don't care wether they're older or younger. And for the smart ones, I'm not answering my question...I just want to know what do older men have that younger don't...
You said it yourself. Money, car, house, can take them places, buy them things, go on vacations, are usually more patient lovers with more experience.
I think your attitude as well dude. You really need to relax. That has alot to do with why they dont want you. Stop acting so immuture.
Ok, you can not say "all girls" but I agree, many of us find money and expensive gifts very important. Just find girl who is not like that.
older men have plenty that young guys do not, and money has nothing to do with it. Older guys can really value a woman as more than some sort of possession, they also know the right things to say and do without feeling awkward, and generally don't get so infatuated and possessive as young guys do...and aren't so desperate seeming for a woman. Older people in general have more experience, and more interesting things to say..and as many girls sort of grow up faster and leave behind the young guys with their video game playing and male bonding, they seek out someone more on their wavelength. We all go through it, and I recall wondering the same things. Now that I have crossed over its plain as day...I can even see it in your wording. Its life.....
-maturity- I love having a mature guy. It's not necessarily tied to age, but age is usually indicative of it. However, my first bf was a year younger than me and probably more mature than I am, and I'm, well, my mom started calling me a crotchety old woman (jokingly) when I was 4 years old and would nag her about her seatbelt and complain about cyclists breaking the rules of the road. But for me, it boils down to maturity. Mmmmmm maturity.
Mrspwonder: I'm not immature. I know when i loose a battle. If a girl tells me "oh no, i can't date you because i'm currently going out with a 30 year old..." I would take it very lightly, i don't go berserk or anything. But on the other hand yes, inside i'm pretty pissed, but i don't express it, never, so i'm not immature (in this particular area ). Although i'll have to agree that attitude is essecial. Haid: I understand that older guys are more independant (in every sense) which shows MAJOR appeal. But man, it's obvious that you're going to say that, you're a 30 year old guy...Therefore, your post looses credibility no matter what the girls may say. To all: Every girl has the right to choose whatever guy they like, it's in their rights, wether he's filthy rich or 15 years older. But c'mon, at least admit it...Girls who get into a relationship just because of the expensive gifts, his car, are absolutely SHALLOW. The one thing that i agree with, is the experience part, older guys are more experienced, up to a certain extent though, as in sex and relationships experience doesn't exist, only general/common knowledge due to the fact that women are unique, each and everyone of them. Last but not least, i'd like to apologize for the vocabulary, i tend to get carried away with the subject, i didn't intend to sound like a PSYCHO. Thanks, i now know the reason, i can sleep much better now, i'm not kidding, you've helped a lot, thanks for the posts. I guess i'll have to look for non-shallow girls, bummer (sarcastic). Peace.
You're right. But, not ALL guys tend to get posessive (at least not me), and i'm not the kind of person who sees a woman as a posession. As for the other part, it's true, and for me, heartbreaking. And life sucks . I'm glad that you said that money has nothing to do with it.
Oh yea, I meant no offense to you, you could very well be the nicest coolest guy out there. Believe me, i remember pining away for girls that would have nothing to do with me other than maybe being friends as a teen. Try not to expect or give too much of a fuck, and you will fare much better Younger girls like some elusiveness...and actually, a lot of young girls haven't a clue what they really want, they are experimenting with different guys
One last thing, what did you mean by "less trouble" mynameiskc?? Do you mean like, violence and bar fights?? Lol. If that's the case, those guys are utterly insecure, and a bit psycho
Well, dear gentlemen, hate to admit it, but girls grow emotionally & physically quicker than boys. Look at any picture of same age boys & girls starting 18 and you will realize that girls look more grown ! Remember once read, that women are ahead with 10 years or so in that respect. So i guess it is natural.
Usually they don't whine so much. They usually also don't sport "can't wait to have a girlfriend" in their signatures. Not knocking you for no reason, mate. In other words, I'm referring to some dignity here. (Not that you don't have any - you're just giving the wrong message.) They're gentle. They're patient. They know how to bang my brains out. They know where to take me. The opportunity for learning new things is greater. You also forget that being a younger woman with an older guy has its own fuck ups and really weird shit. I don't recommend it because of potentially strange power imbalances. However, I have dated an 18 year old. I'll never repeat that experience again as the one older in the relationship. I was too much a mother than a woman in my own right. He ended up thinking I manipulated him. The boy couldn't even communicate properly. He simply did not know how to make decisions. That's the bottomline. And I think this is generally true for inexperienced or youth. What's so wrong about it? There's nothing wrong about it. We all have a learning curve. Just chill out already and enjoy being your age. I don't give a flying tutu about bleeding heart syndrome and "age isn't everything" BS. Realistically, it makes a difference.
Wait Why is it whining so immature? I'm just feeling a bit heartbroken and you come with the "you're a whining young bitch" attitude. Second, "can't wait to have a girlfriend" i'll have to take it out from my signature, i guess that's what happens when you open up to people, you get JUDGED, my fault, really. What has dignity do with everything? I have tons of it, the fact that i open up in this forum, does not mean i act the same way in reality, don't worry, lacking dignity is the least of my problems. I guess that in order to have an acceptable signature i'd have to put something like poetry or "pot rules!". Just because you had shittie younger boyfriends does not mean we're all the same way. Well, basically, i got the idea, i truly mean it. Younger men cannot compete with older ones, because they know how to fuck better, they have money, they're more mature, patient and experienced. I guess i'll have to grow up faster, any advice? really. In this thread it has come to my attention the videogames issue, is it really a major turnoff for women?? Maybe i'll post another thread with the subject: "Are videogames considered a turnoff for women?? How can a man grow up faster??" Look, i really like women my same age, and even older, how can i call their attention?
I forgot, i tried to change the title to "Question for women, about older guys" but it didn't happened, what's up with that?
I think another big draw is that is makes the girls involved feel more mature. Well, I have been with the same woman for 12 years, married for 10 and she is older then me. So you can't blame me. I don't think I could date women that much younger then me for the same reasons most of the women stated.
When I was 18, I wound up in a year & a half long relationship with a 32 year old. Going into it, I was totally infatuated with all the stuff he'd seen & done (yes, experience, that elusive thing that you usually don't get until after you needed it). It wasn't the car, the house, etc. cuz he was so broke he couldn't even pay attention! I wound up moving in with him and all that... And found out that he was emotionally about 12 years old and looking for a mommy. That sort of jaded me about the older guys who do date significantly younger women... What is wrong with them emotionally that they can't get a woman their own age? As for what you can do to get the attention of these women, not much directly (unless you want them laughing at you as a clown). Focus on your own interests -- if you dig hiking, look into finding some outdoors club in your area. If you think photography might be cool, look into a class at the community center or in some 'continuing education' program. Find ways to have great experiences in things you want to experience, preferably in a social setting -- those great experiences mean cool stories to tell, if you even need that, cuz you may meet some awesome woman who shares your interests and is more interested in finding a bf who will also be a hiking buddy (or whatever) than in listening to exciting stories (which often start to sound like bullshit to more mature women, which is why these guys are still stuck with young girls -- no matter what other posters have said, these girls are not all that much more mature than you are, but society is set up to allow them to think that they are, especially since it is so much easier for them to attract older mates). And, if you're focusing on yourself and pursuing your own interests, it will give you something to do so that 1. you're not just sitting around wishing you had a gf, and more importantly 2. girls will know that you're not just sitting around being desperate, that you're out there doing cool things and enjoying life with or without a girlfriend.
Because whining is what 4 year olds do. It denotes continued bitching about a subject, beyond basic venting, without being willing to make any changes to resolve the problem. It also involves an "oh poor me" attitude, which is ridiculous since -everyone- has problems, barriers and difficulties in their lives. Depends on the woman. Me, I like video games, well, rpg's at least. War games not so much. But as long as you can pay attention to the girl and have somethign to talk about besides the videogames it should be fine. It's when they overtake your life that it's a problem, same with anything.
It is not a matter of being older that we are searching for or money and expensive gifts. My husband is an year and a half younger then I am but he is mature to a point for his age. Video games never have left his intrests, but he is responsible and knows how to handle most thing maturly enough. It is also a respect issue in alot of cases older men know that regardless on the women's age respect is nessisary now notice I said alot and not all cases. The hubby can still be very immature 10 years later but he nows when and when not to be overbaord when he wants to act as a child. Good luck in your search. Remember to look at what you might want to change to appeal to women that are your age or older.