just wondered ?

Discussion in 'Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans, etc.' started by sentient, Dec 6, 2006.

  1. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    This isnt a thread where I want to state an opinion and I'm not attacking anyone ok?
    But seriously I have always wondered why being gay is an issue for gay people? I mean I dont call myself hetro and want to go join a hetro thread.
    Also it seems to me that whereas straight people more or less identify themselves with the job they do, gay people identify with their sexuality.
    These things are puzzling because if gay people really want acceptance and really feel like theyre just normal people, then why dont they just drop all the stuff to with labelling themselves gay but just have gay relationships and identify with the world by forgetting that they differ from heterosexuals?

    Well its a question I wish I could put more succinctly but cant find a way of saying it any differently


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  2. Strangeness

    Strangeness Member

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    its because majority of hetro people ar e homophobic and gay is a "bad" thing so we are the minority yet still apart of it. and polotics, religon, and people brian washed about how gays are bad and sterio typed and what not. So we have this forum to help each other out indirectly and for advice in stuff so yea.
     
  3. Night_Owl49

    Night_Owl49 Since 2006

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    First of all, not all gay people are all about their sexuality. That is a stereotype. I'm personally annoyed at having to deal with all these blanket statements.

    This forum is here because much of the world is homophobic, and there are situations that are good to talk about. This is a support forum, as far as I'm concerned.
     
  4. Rainbow Starlite

    Rainbow Starlite Member

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    It's a big deal to some b/c so much of the world, as stated above, is homophobic. It's useful to be able to come some place like this and talk openly about our relationships and issues. Things like the comment in my siggie are just amusing to me- and it's b/c of all the shit we've had to put up with. People everywhere can jabber on about their straight relationships. It's sadly not so often the case for those of us who are in same sex relationships.
     
  5. erzebet1961

    erzebet1961 Senior Member

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    Its not an Issue to all of us , Im gay , and the only time anyone even heres me defend or discuss or even bring it up is when I have to defend one of my gay brothers or sisters .....you are lumping those gay's who are on a soapbox all the time with the rest of us. Not all of us do that.

    Stright people also make an issue of being GAY !
     
  6. sm0key42o8

    sm0key42o8 Senior Member

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    Im dont put a label on people like this. I like both. I dont see how you act gay or label people as such...I look at it as open mindedness
     
  7. Samhain

    Samhain Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    well first define normal, is being straight a mark of normal for you, if so, then is it good enough just to be straight, or do you need to be straight white able bodied with a family?
    the worlds fulled with many many different types of people this is what makes it so great.

    I am not normal in any sense of the word, but people still accept me, and everyone defines themselves by something.
    wether that be being a mother, being a man, or what you do for a living or your religion.
    so some people define themselves as gay, see it as what makes them speical, does that mean they are less acceptable, well only if the person that doesn't accept them is a narrow minded bigot
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  8. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    I just couldnt find a better way to ask is all.
    I wasnt implying that you should answer - in fact I was really surprised anyone did answer the question. But now its answered I'm grateful as at least I got something to think about.
    thats cool - I just didnt think of it that way u see. I dont think about stuff like that. I rarely met any prejudice in my life so wouldnt know much about that. and thats what I meant above by havin something to think about. you answered it well
    Actually i dont know if you mean "soapbox" in the political sense, or this sense: but I have a friend who is gay and he is absolutely hilarious. Camp as anything but one of the funniest people with it that I've ever met. Now he totally defines himself by his sexuality but he can never be bothered to be serious long enough to ask him stuff like that. I just know he doesnt identify himself in any other way than with the word "gay" and I always thought that was so strange as he's so talented at a lot of things that he could tag himself as - just seems odd to me that he chooses his sexuality

    but yeah thanks everyone !
    Thanks
     
  9. Jonny6

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    Did he just come out?
    Often when people are closeted for a while and then finally do come out, they feel so good about it that it becomes pervasive, but only for a limited time.

    If it lasts a while, he may have made it the defining part of his personality. We all identify some trait that makes us unique among our friends and this may be his. I know a person or two like that.
     
  10. amp7325

    amp7325 Visitor

    There are plenty of non-flamboyant people who are gay/lesbian/transgender/whatever. However, since they're not flamboyant and don't talk about partners or whatnot, how are you able to whether they're gay or straight? There might be someone at your job that you don't really know very well, or you might think you know very well, and you may have just assumed that this person is straight, but you never know. It's kind of unfair to assume that just because someone isn't flamboyant or outright with their sexuality, that they're straight. And I'm not saying that you're making this assumption, I just don't think that your statement makes much sense.

    However, I do understand what you're saying and why you might think that.
     
  11. Jonny6

    Jonny6 Member

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    Indeed.
     
  12. *Andy*

    *Andy* Senior Member

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    You've completely generalised there. I guess the fact that gay people are "different" and less common makes them more susceptible to making an issue of their sexuality. Also, straight people do make an issue of being straight. If you think about it, quite often, men have moronic "competitions" about who is the bigger man..even if they don't realise it. And another thing - if straight people didnt make an issue of sexuality, then why would homophobia exist? Like many other people have said - it's a place to talk about situations weve been in and the like. People don't hate you because you're straight..and if they did, you'd probably join a forum like this too! I know you're not trying to be rude but I guess its something you only understand if you're in that situations. The same could be said for amputees and other disabled people. They form groups to fit in I guess.
     
  13. l-foote

    l-foote L not i.

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    In the end, we're all just people... it shouldn't matter if we are attracted to the same sex.
     

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