In my World History class in school we just started talking a lot about the Vietnam War. This is a topic i was very much interested in last year and now i am again lol, mainly in the antiwar area. My teacher wants us to do a research project on anything relating to the Vietnam War, and he mentioned music as an idea. I got the idea that making a poster or some type of project relating to the Deads role in the antiwar movement would be an excellent idea to research, in benefit for myself and for a good topic. I was thinking that i would choose some songs and analyze them on their meanings towards the War or in general about the era that it occured. Id probably bring in a cd of those songs too. Id also write about each band members opinions, or what they did during the antiwar period. These are just starting ideas, i havent done much yet to look into the idea. But if anyone has further opinions on this idea, more things about the Dead to look into, or recommend another idea, im still interested in that as well. This would be great help! Thanks! peace&love
the dead were not really into the anti-war movement...they saw themselves as musicians and not revolutionaries. i read a quote from one of them saying that they just didnt feel comfortable speaking out against the war as many of their friends in the Pranksters and the Hells Angels had served in the military... that being said, 'Morning Dew' is probably as close to an anti-war song they had (though they didnt write that one).....hope this helps
problem is jerry was an apolitical soul. while the scene might have had an anti war element, they were all music. in fact, Jerry and Mickey both were military. (Mickey was Drum Corps, I forget which branch) this is not to say they supported the war by any means, it was just never their reason for being counter culture. Now, you might find some help on David Dodd's annotated grateful Dead lyrics archive, but you'd need to look at Barlow and Hunter's anti-war statements. the Dead themselves wrote very few if any lyrics. http://arts.ucsc.edu/Gdead/AGDL/ for more obvious anti war bits, maybe compare and contrast, say Cream Puff War (GD) with Sabbath's War Pigs. pick any song to show a differentce in approach or message about the futility of armed conflict. (side note, it helps to understand the political theories that got the US there, domino and containment and see if you can find where youth culture said NO to this idea. MAybe even pull a protest from the later years, 72-75) Not overly useful per se, but an interesting collection: http://www.gcal.ac.uk/politicalsong/research/mcnair3.html anti war as the Library of Congress sees it: http://www.loc.gov/folklife/guides/VietnamWar.html another war and music project or two: www.gananda.k12.ny.us/library/mshslibrary/APHistory/Finch.doc http://faculty.buffalostate.edu/fishlm/folksongs/songsindex.htm
Jerry once said in relation to why he didn't vote "constantly chooseing between two evils is still chosing evil". Like people said before the dead really just wanted to focus on making great music and gettig people high. If you did the project on the dead it might be possible but i think you would be making a lot of work for yourself. I would recomend possibly looking at someone like john lennon who was definitly outspoken about the veitnam war.
a tad off topic, but perhaps you could show this in your class. i love to collect old shows from http://stash.nugs.net/stash.asp and one show, suring second set 2nd track, during drums a woman in the audience gives a small speech to helping their brothers out in vietnam. perhaps this can help? you can find the show here: http://stash.nugs.net/attics/700607_mp3.asp?artist=1&show=1&cmd=shows
i never really took 'cream puff war' as an anti-war statement, more a criticism of the anti-war movement
from what i understand, there were two pillars of the hippy counterculture scene. There was the scene going on at berkley which was heavily political and fueled by anti-war mentalities and characters like jerry rubin, abbie hoffman, etc... then there was what was going on at Haight-Ashbury which was where bands like the Dead, Jefferson Airplane, Big Brother and the Holding Company were more about music, love and drugs. naturally, nothing is so black and white but what the Dead was doing during the 60s was about experimentation and dancing! not too much of a political edge but still, the two scenes certainly overlapped so maybe your project could serve to prove that not all hippies were political radicals? maybe you could start breaking down steriotypes and use the Dead to paint a more honest portrait of hippy culture.
I agree, that's why the hippy "aw it ain't gonna do anything" side would contrast well with the post hippy war as machine side. the hardcore antiwar protestors were their own pack. hippies might cross over, and the huge majority were against the idea of war in toto, but the berkely intellectual side was where the main focus was coming from. Hunter Thompson wrote a great piece on this. it's in Great Shark Hunt.
i was on the peace, love and dance side, then i went political. then i went back to jsut being the peace, love and dance guy......why fight with anyone? lets just let the music play!
I talked to my teacher after realized my mistake relating the Dead to the antiwar movement. You all were right how they cared only for the music and people, and it completely slipped my mind that jerry and mickey were in the military, mickey being an enlisted drummer in the marine band i think? Well anyways, i asked that what if i just show the importance of music to the people living during the time period like the Grateful Dead's role in love and psychedelic music, and he said thats cool as well. So ill just try and look more into the impact of the band itself to the people. Thanks everyone!