Dinosaurs

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Alacritous, Dec 13, 2006.

  1. Alacritous

    Alacritous Member

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    Hello I was wondering if someone here could tell me how dinosaurs are explained in the bible.. Im not religious but doesn't it say that god made man in his image with sand or something.. then made a chick from his rib? Then they had sex, then their kids had sex and so on? I've never heard mention of dinosaurs...

    Thanks :)
     
  2. eightysixed

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    That’s because dinosaurs had their own Bible.
     
  3. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

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    The creation story in the bible tells why, not how. Science tells us how, religion tells us why.


    Dinosuars are not mentioned in the bible because god intended for us to discover them on our own. There are alot of scietific truths (such as the existence of cells, the sun being the center of the solar system, etc.) that are not mentioned. This is because if god revealed everything, there would be nothing left for us to learn, and he would have given us brains for no good reason.

    The creation story is correct in many ways, if you don't take the timing literally. Light came first, plants before humans, etc. The timing was not made scietifically correct because that was not the point of the creation story. The point was that we were made in the image of god, we were made to care for the earth and its animals, and woman came from a rib because she was made to stand at man's SIDE, not in front and certainly not behind him. ;)

    But that's just my take. :)

    -Kate
     
  4. articnorth

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    the thing is when god created heavens and the earth.

    there were animals and birds, imagine that there wasn't any sin at that time, therefore the animals were huge by that timeframe.

    we had a speaker talking about the evolution and stuff and how the bible is specific on the creation, in the christian context.

    i will put up the website on a later date.
     
  5. Alacritous

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    I was really hoping that I would get better answers than these....

    Perhaps the answer is too obvious?
     
  6. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

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  7. Alacritous

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    Being that I see the bible as a work of fiction, how could you prove to me that the reason that dinosaurs are not mentioned is because god felt we needed a homework assignment...? Let's say I was to write a novel with far fetched stories like being able to shoot lasers from my eyes with no proof, then claim its non fiction, wouldnt anyone in their right mind expect me to prove it somehow before taking it literally? Every explanation I ever get is always the same.. "God wanted it that way!" or "god works in mysterious ways!" but how do you know? Has god told you in your sleep? And that can be said about anything or anyone....How could anyone be so confortable with devoting their entire life and so much money to a book/religion that could have been written by anyone, doesnt contain a single shred of proof, is far fetched and is full of contradictions... Think about scientology for instance, they do the same thing yet christians scold them all the time... I just dont get it..

    Maybe im missing something here?

    Oh btw, I havent even read the bible and I know that it's a lie to say that they dont attempt to answer HOW just WHY.
     
  8. eightysixed

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    Yes, Alacritous, the answer is too obvious: the Bible is not a book on natural history, and it is ridiculous to expect it to describe such a trifling (for modern people) matter as dinosaurs. Anyway, scientific views change, say, every ten years or faster, sometimes radically, so I can tell you that even in the books on natural history you won’t find the absolute truth about dinosaurs. And this is a very serious mistake to take the Bible literally. The Bible is like a mirror where everybody sees just him or herself. It helps to find your flaws and your personal way of life. Of course, you can use any other book as such a mirror or even get rid of all mirrors altogether. That’s okay. As for me, I prefer the Bible quite often since it contains a very powerful writing, and it is not easy to find a poet in European culture with a gift of words equal to King David.

    First of all, nothing contains a single shred of proof in the extreme, even the books on natural history :) And surely wise people don’t devote their lives to a book or religion. They can devote their lives to God, but I guess you understand that God is a little bit different from the Bible and from Christianity :) Well, however it is, you shouldn’t worry, since I don’t believe that someone is going to force you into such a devotion. Needless to say, you are free. If you don’t need God, just live without God.

    That’s strange. I’ve concluded by your question that you are, at least in some way, interested in the Bible – and you haven’t even read it. This is hardly a good way to the truth :)
     
  9. sentient

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    I do apologise in advance for this but just let me get it out of my system ok ?
    BAWAAAAAAAAHA HA HA HA
    Thats the most preposterous nonesense I have heard in so long
    Just what could we have expected from a christian? They werent mentioned in the bible thats it - where does it say anywhere that god wanted us to discover dinosaurs on our own? not in the bible so where else is gods word written - otherwise did god give you some insight that mere mortals dont posess?
    WOOOO HAAAAAAA HAAAAAA HAAAR HAAAAA
    hahahahahahahahahahaha A trifling matter such as dinosaurs - the lifeform which was the most prolific and long lasting on this planet - are you nuts?
     
  10. Alsharad

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    No supernatural insight, just deductive logic and some common sense. The idea is that God created us with curiousity and created a universe in which we can be curious. That means that God isn't going to tell us everything, just what's important and necessary. It's pretty simple, really.

    A further extension of this argument would be that God would want us to discover dinosaurs as they are a testament to His power and creativity. In short, we learn more about Him as we learn about them (much like understanding an artist through his artwork).

    All laughter aside, what makes them not trifling? So they were here for a long time. So what? How does that impact one's relationship with God (which is what is really important)? What justification do you have for expecting the dinosaurs to be explained?
     
  11. eightysixed

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    Why do you think it had to say that? The Bible is a book for free people with brains, it is not a list of instructions for dummies. Unfortunately, modern so-called culture has accustomed a lot of people to that kind of bound bullshit – non-contradictory, easy-to-read, manual-like, the-best-of-formatted. And after that it is truly not easy to understand what the Bible is about. I am not saying this personally of you – this is, unfortunately, our common situation.

    And if you think God has promised to keep all his revelations inside the Bible, you are very naïve. He writes his words in hearts, not in books. But I don’t think here is a right place to expound theology and European history.
    I am extremely proud that I made you so happy, but, look, I am sorry to say this, but it seems that you knowledge of natural history is no deeper than your knowledge of the Bible. There are many lifeforms which are more prolific and long lasting on this planet than dinosaurs and which still exist around you and even inside you – I mean insects, plants and various bacteria, for example. And if you tell me that dinosaurs influence you more than bacteria, well, I will not know what to think about your mindset.
    That’s a very contagious laughter :)
     
  12. BlackBillBlake

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    thin at one end

    thick in the middle
    thin again at the other end.

    Ann Elk's Theory of Dinosaurs.
    from Monty Python.
     
  13. hotwater

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    The reason the Bible doesn’t mention Dinosaurs is the same reason why the Bible doesn’t mention the modern computer, The Bible wasn’t inspired by God, it was inspired by man’s belief in God :H



    Hotwater
     
  14. 40oz and chronic

    40oz and chronic 'Nuff Said

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    just so ya know. god didnt write the bible
     
  15. campbell34

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    The Bible does speak of dinosaurs, and it describes them as living in the day the Bible was written. Will leave a few links below to consider.

    http://www.bibleprobe.org/dinosaur.html
    http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/bible/bible.htm
    http://www.bible.ca/tracks/dino-fossils.htm
     
  16. campbell34

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    If you took the time to read the Bible you would of know, it does mention Dinosaurs. Consider the link below.

    http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/bible/bible.htm
     
  17. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    While the bibles interpretation of Jurassic Park was very interesting, a scientist once proposed creating a Jesus Park by cloning cells from the Shroud of Turin.

    With enough clones you could have dozens of Jesus's walking around performing miracles, walking on water, and raising the dead - what do you think ?



    Hotwater
     
  18. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

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    Hmm...not really buying the link, campbell. It seems to imply that humans and dinosaurs existed simultaneously, which we know is not true, thanks to carbon dating. I go with the other point--the bible is not a natural history book.
     
  19. campbell34

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    Thanks to Carbon dating?

    Let me see, dinosaurs died off according to Evolutionist about 70 million years ago. Carbon dating can be depended on for accuracy for about 60,000 years. Am I missing something here.

    And according to Evolutionist a fish called the Coelacanth was a fine example of intermediate which died off 70 million years ago. However a boat called the Nerine caught one in the Indian Ocean in 1938. So much for that intermediate.

    And if the Bible writers are discribing fire breathing lizards with tails the size of cedar trees, ect. Did they get that description from one of their local museums?

    And if man did not coexist with dinosaurs, why are they finding clay figurines of dinosaurs from ancient civilizations in Mexico, and dinosaur petroglyphs. Or did they have museums to?

    Evolutionist have told us that soft tissue will not be found in dinosaur bones because it cannot exist after 10,000 years.

    NOVA LOUNGE Sunday, October 01, 2006

    Science Now: "When paleontologist find fossilized dinosaur bones during a dig, they usually do everything in their power to protect them, using tools like toothbrushes to carefully unearth the bones without inflicting any damage.
    However, when scientists found a massive Tyrannosaurus rex thigh bone in a remote region of Montana a few months ago, they were forced to break the bone in two in order to fit it into the transport helicopter. THIS ACT OF NECESSITY REVEALED A STARTLING SURPRISE: SOFT TISSUE THAT HAD SEEMINGLY RESISTED FOSSILIZATION STILL EXISTED INSIDE THE BONE. THIS TISSUE, INCLUDING BLOOD VESSELS, BONE CELLS, AND PERHAPS EVEN BLOOD CELLS, WAS SO WELL PRESERVED THAT IT WAS STILL STRETCHY AND FLEXIBLE.

    WOW, I wonder what Evolutionist will tell us now about soft tissue? We don't have to wait, I can predict what they will say. In order for them to protect their theory of Evolution, they will now tell you, that soft tissue not only will last 10,000 years, but it can even last for 70 million years. Evolutionist to me are a joke. Because they will change every theory, before they change the theory of Evolution. All other Theories must be wrong, in their attempt to make Evolution right.
     
  20. Ikdenkhetniet

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    Yes,
    The Bible (once again) is validated by research.
    Dinosaurs.
    Megafauna.

    For CENTURIES the Bible (in particular book of Job) described two different animals.
    Leviathan:
    Sea Creature. Astonishing size and ferocity, leaving long wakes behind it and with reptilian scales unable to be beaten by even iron spears and hooks.
    Behemoth:
    Massive animal described as having incredible legs and ribs, tail like a cedar tree, stands in rivers.

    So anyways.
    This is the Bible that makes these claims.
    Long before you ever heard of Dinosaurs the Bible was already describing something like this.

    AHHAHAHA.. What a SToopid book eh?
    Everyone knows that there is no such thing as Gigantic sea creatures or massive megafauna!
    HAHA.. PROVE IT BIBLE!

    Do you know what some Christians even did to 'explain away' the descriptions?
    Some tried to say
    "Well.. its not 'literal' and its just poetic license and its probably meaning Hippos or crocodiles.. dont take it 'literally'"

    But as usual, scientific research caught up to the Bible and yes indeed sea creatures and megasaurs like Plesiosaurs or Brontosaurus are found today in fossil form around the earth.

    Bible: 4534554
    Doubters: -1
     

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