Ignorance toward acid, why?

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by desert nightmare, Dec 15, 2006.

  1. Beckner420

    Beckner420 troll

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    if you do, drag his ass out of school, smoke a couple bowls, once hes nice and high then tell him. Being stoned would lighten the idea of being on acid a bit, just make sure he dosnt go to the principals or to authority or something. Also, you being on acid would help, so he has someone to compare to when hes seeing the new stuff.
     
  2. kidsmoke

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    I was 100% joking. Don't do that. Think about the trip they would have if they are as closed minded as you claim. They would probably flip out, thinking their brain was bleeding or blah blah blah whatever.

    If anything, ditch your loser friends that don't sound like very good friends to me anyhow. Find people that you can relate to, and will listen to you even if there is a disagreement. Then trip with them. [​IMG]
     
  3. kidsmoke

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    Where do you come up with this stuff?
     
  4. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    hahaha that's what the xanax is for. Tough love, man......tough love. Sometimes you have to force these things on people for them to see the light. Personally, I think he should get dosed just because he has the chance to. I would love for soemone to secretly dose my drink, even if I had never tried acid.
     
  5. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Dude, don't dose someone who doesn't want it, that's just cruel. That's what gives drug users a bad name.
     
  6. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    Ignorant fucks, like the dude we're talking about dosing, give NON-drug users a bad name. He needs to see the truth, willingly or not.
     
  7. desert nightmare

    desert nightmare Senior Member

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    But what if you had to go somewher important before they doses you. Like work, or being around cops? That would suck ass. But yeah the xanax thing is a good idea. If anything ui can just always hit him over the head with a frying pan. That should shut him up.
     
  8. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    hahahaha this is kinda fukt up, man. lol

    Yeah even if I had to be somewhere important, like court or something, I'd still like to be dosed. Tripping on acid is a once in a lifetime thing for some people. I have only found acid one time, and if I had the chance to eat some more, even at the expense of a job or something, I'd do it, because that's just how wonderful it is.
     
  9. kidsmoke

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    I got dosed at a party once in high school.

    All the sudden: "Woah. Thanks whoever that was."

    Made me wonder who these fuck wits are who go around doing that type of thing. I enjoyed it quite a bit, but would never do that to an unsuspecting person. That shit is cruel and expensive.
     
  10. jrod13

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    I dont know if they are your friends with that attitude.

    I wish I had friends that would put some acid in my drink.

    Ignorance toward acid are everywhere, you name they claim it. The one about how it stays in your spinal tap forever is really popular, as well as chromosome damage. We live in a brainwashed society.
     
  11. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    I agree it is kinda cruel, but in the right circumstances, as with xanax or other benzos, you can take preventative measures to avoid a freak-out and, maybe, the person would end up enjoying themselves, if they were still tripping after a small dose of a benzo, that is. He may not even need the xanax, if desert nightmare informs him early enough and explains to him what he is about to experience and to just go with the flow and leave his mind open for exploration; also, make sure to explain that there is xanax available if he becomes uncomfortable.
     
  12. colorful_hippie

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    Instead of dosing them (which would make everything worse) point them in the direction of our handy friend erowid!
     
  13. High Priest

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    Forcing/tricking people to do illegal drugs is fucking disgusting.

    I wish what I was reading was a joke, and I'm glad some of you were... But doing that is just wrong. Are you so unable to defend your own habits that the best response to simple criticism is to sneak drugs into people's drinks?

    Look at yourself in the real world... People in general have demonized LSD, and the only way to combat that is with the TRUTH. Without that truth, there is nothing... You can't and won't ever find a way to be hypocritical (with authoritative actions) and get some different results.

    And my best advice may be: Quit with the highschool shit.
     
  14. rainbowedskylover

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    I bet he'll get into a bad trip because all of his prejudices about acid. don't do it dude, it's mindrape

    i really feel bad for you because of the way your friends feel about acid, but to dose one of them isn't going to change their opinion about it and if everything fails you be in deep shit. think about that. even if you can get him down with xanax he'll hate you because of what you did to him. think about the way you would feel if someone got you on smack whil you didn't know of it. i would feel like shit
     
  15. Gelfling

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    Firstly, I don't think this is unusual at all. This is a normal reaction from people who have no idea what you're talking about, they are just reacting to popular stories and nothing more.
    They simply have no real knowledge on this subject, which doesn't mean they are bad people or shouldn't be your friends, only that they might be a little dim in this area and hopefully you have a chance to educate them.

    When they say you can't 'know' something without being a scientist, just call bullshit. Scientists find stuff out, people learn it. How do they know milk has calcium in it otherwise? How do they know about atoms if they can't see them and are not scientists?.. you don't kneed to be a scientist to know anything about anything, you only need to have some interest.

    Explain something like this to them calmly whenever they question your credentials but don't push the lsd subject too much or insist you are right, just behave knowingly and they will ask you about when they are ready to stop acting like children.

    To anyone considering drugging someone else without their knowledge: sounds kinda funny, it should be in a movie for entertainment.....but to do this to a living human being, especially one you are perfectly aware has indicated they have no wish to try the drug, is just plain sick and you deserve all the police attention you will (hopefully) get.
    People like you are why lsd is illegal, you shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the stuff.
     
  16. tumbledownDNA

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    DONT DOSE ANYONE.


    seriously. that's not right, and is a serious misuse of LSD. to forcibly alter someone's consciousness and in the name of revenge is literally like mind rape. not only are you putting him at psychological risk, you are putting yourself and even this forum at risk. if this kid gets dosed and wigs out and makes a huge deal out of it and it traces back to you, then dude you are FUCKED. to dose someone as revenge would be incredibly ignorant, and ignorance fighting ignorance doesn't add up to much.
     
  17. tumbledownDNA

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    what? i don't understand this. since when are we the regulators of karma? since when do you see the light? to me, we all see the light. and that is really what "seeing the light" is, its realizing that each and every one of us, no matter what our race class creed circumstances life position intelligence level, all of us are an integral part of the universe and are therefore connected. to me this means unconditional love and acceptance for your fellow man. how can you justify violating one's personal physical and mental autonomy - one of the main lessons of the psychedelic experience - in the name of teaching them something that you have decided is right?

    the CIA might say the same thing as you - sometimes you have to force people to understand certain things. but those things aren't what you understand, its what they understand. and you know what forcibly putting your ideas into someone's head is called? brainwashing (and in fact the CIA used LSD for that purpose). there's a fine line, but dosing someone definitely crosses it because you were in control of the chemical, and therefore you are in control of their trip.

    the hardest part about "seeing the light" is how to spread it. because even though your reality has been expanded and improved, its still YOUR reality. forcing it upon those who you deem more ignorant than you only proves that you are still ignorant. Instead of wasting your time thinking about how wrong these people are and what they deserve, why not work on yourself and developing more positive charactaristics in you. anything you dislike in someone else is in essence something you dislike in yourself. look for that person in yourself. and by identifying yourself with your opposition, you begin to love that person as yourself, and you can begin to live by example, instead of simply by your words. when kids like that make asshole comments and ignorant bullshit, try to enlighten them and if not, ignore them. set the example that you aren't affected by them. because really thats all their trying to do is get under your skin.
     
  18. tumbledownDNA

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    sorry, third post. but haha for real, don't use LSD as a way to solve some highschool drama.
     
  19. desert nightmare

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    I don't think i'd really do it anyways, just for the fact of the police. But if that wasn't an issue then i'd do it. Just one hit though. One hit couldn't possibly mess anyone up psychologically that bad. Beating his ass would have a much larger negative effect on his mind then one hit of acid. There is like a 98% chance he'll fucking love it anyways. But if i put like 10 hits in his drink, now that would be fucked up.
     
  20. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    I never said I decided anything was right. In fact, everything about the situation is completely wrong. When I said "see the light" I was refering to the fact that he needs to realize society has been lying to him; he deserves to know. There is no malice in my thinking that he should be dosed, whether it is the right thing to do or not. I know that, even if I [thought] acid was gonna kill me, I would rather know that I have been lied to by the government/society, as opposed to living in ignorance, even if it resulted in a bad trip. At least I would know that there is nothing really to worry about, other than a bad trip. Thus, I will have seen the light, so to speak.

    I do know that it is wrong to dose and unsuspecting individual, but it is better than letting him rot in ignorance. Don't you think?
     

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