And the Dems don't put people in the rat race? Explain your coercive capitalism to me for i am but an ignorant conservative in a world of liberal wisdom!
Let me explain American politics to you. "I think the puppet on the left holds my beliefs." "I think the puppet on the right is more to my liking." "Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding up both puppets!" ___________________Bill Hicks There's VERY little difference between the two parties of big business and globalization. At best, Kerry will fuck us at a medium pace, where as Bush is all cowboy about it. But as for agendas, there are both S&B after all. Both old east coast money. It's just theater for Americans to fight amongst themselves over issues of little or no social import, i.e. abortion, gay marriage, etc....
Bacchus, I like you. Welcome to Hip Forums. You're right. The candidates will debate each other on "issues" like gay marriage, the national debt, terrorism (not really an issue since their stances don't really differ that much), their individual war records, things that have little to no effect on the average American. Real issues like education, welfare, the justice system, etc. are ignored in favor of foreign wars which have no impact on the average American and terrorists who don't pose a threat to 99.9% of people. Choosing between Bush and Kerry is like choosing between a kick in the nuts and a frying pan to the face.
Thanks for the welcome. As for "anarchists" it's allready been exposed that the "anarchists" in Seattle were hired thugs paid and protected by the Fed's in WA. For the sole purpose of disrupting any peacful protests, and to roll out the riot police. On a sidebar: Did you know OR is trying to pass a law that would jail, for 25 years, anyone who was on the street, when "violence erupts"?
You should close your face hole before it makes you look more idiotic! I know people protested the DNC, the premise of this post it that "anarchists" are trying to disrupt the convention with all of these nazi tactics. They aren't peacefully protesting, they're trying to forcibly suppress the opposition. If you little "anarchists" stay in the fenced area and don't "disrupt" the convention then I have absolutely no problem. I do disagree with your tactics, as they are that of terrorists, and you will be jailed for them. No conservative groups came out with the same BS tactics to disrupt the DNC: because they are adults!
Great deduction.....jackass! I think it will be funny when one of you hippies tries to "disrupt" the convention and the FBI jumps up your ass! Heres how I see it: If it thinks like a anarchist, acts like a anarchist, and wants to be a anarchist; then its a terrorist. Sure, my name makes me part of the NWO! If I were part of a NWO it would be of my own making. funny, an open minded hippy that wont hear outside views....how typical. I would like to see where I've stated that I'm in law enforcement! or any other statement about what I do, for that matter. You are absolutely hilarious!!!!! I'm a "lunatic fringe", law enforcement official, and a indecent person because I disagree with you. Typical NAZI tactics buddy! Lie, fabricate, and mis-state!
Yes its all the GOP's fault, you haven't contributed and niether has a single Democrat. If I remember correctly, according to you Democrats: our capitalistic society furished under President clinton. From this statement you can conclude two things; 1.) Democrats are better for Capitalism. 2.) Your statement would be much more intelligent had you said DNC instead of GOP!
No, he has a legitement arguement. If the GOP "controls" the masses then why aren't the Republicans, all Republicans not just the President, WAY ahead in the polls. Because you embrace emotionally driven ignorance and shun reason; thats why.
Well said. Seems like both candidates are out of touch with the real world, and living in that capital hill bubble that everyone wishes would pop or just float off into space somewhere. I can't believe all the slander thats going on when there are REAL issues out there that need to be considered.
"hippy hunter", you are so fucking worthless that it's not even worth replying to you, and after this, I won't. the fact that you keep quoting my words to "prove them wrong" is in no way at all effective. It just shows that you enjoy copying and pasting. Also for you to say that "if it acts, walks, talks like an anarchist, is a "terrorist"", just proves my point that you're indeed a PAID infiltrator (unless you're just a volunteer--unlikely). The bottom line is, you won't succeed. Too many people are already against you and the numbers continue to grow. I suggest you find another job because "hippy hunting" will just get you into deep trouble.
stay in the fenced area? thank god for all the men and women in history who decided not to stay fenced up. how about this one: if you "colored people" stay at the back of the bus and dont "disrupt" public transportation then i have no problem. or: if you "jews" just wear your star of david and dont "disrupt" the will of the german people then i have no problem. lets not forget: if you "gays" learn your place and dont "disrupt" our contrived and ignorant definition of marriage then i have no problem. i guess "great" minds think alike.
i love how you put everyone who protest in the anarchist column. i never mentioned any anarchist, and i never mentioned conservatives either. maybe you should read my post, before running your mouth. i said protestors of the DNC. but its great how you want all protesters to be penned up. you think when this country was founded, the protesters were penned up? but you'll probably say they used nazi tactics, huh? so do you think, at every protest, the protestors should be penned up? thats democracy, be penned up. i think its a nazi tactic to have protestors penned up. get a fucking life.
Or maybe they don't wanna seem conspicuous. Don't try and say that I am Stating that the GOP controls the masses, for I don't have any proof and I'm not about to come out and say that without hard evidence. But if someone or something "Controls" the masses, and the elections, etc. They wouldn't make the polls 90% for Bush and 10% for Kerry...That is What Saddam and Diem did when they controlled the elections, and they were caught by other countries for holding faulty elections. Peace and Love, Dan
Hmm...I would probably choose a frying pan in the face...Once the pain goes away it doesn't spread elsewhere, as with kicking in the nuts, there is excruciating pain to the nutsack, and then it SLOOOWWWWLLLY spreads to the stomach, ugghhh. Although if there was lots of oil in the frying pan i might have to deal with a good amount of pimples on my face....What would you choose max? Peace and Love, Dan
Thank you for not replying. Not only have you demostrated that you have absolutely nothing on me, but you have also save the one minute of my life I would have wasted reading your post. Once again, Thank You and Goodbye
Once again trying to twist my meaning..... THE ENTIRE PREMISE OF THIS TOPIC IS THAT "Anarchists and Others to Disrupt Republican Convention" I don't know about you, but I'm still talking about anarchists. I didn't say a protestor is an anarchist, I said IF YOU ARE AN ANARCHIST THEN YOU ARE A TERRORIST!! Big difference. I don't want all protestors to be "penned up", but you little Democrats did it and I only see it fit (and fair) that the Republicans get to do it as well! Don't try to lecture me on "when this country was founded", like you served in the Continental army. You didn't even "serve" in the Boy Scouts. Quit telling me to "go read my posts blahblah blah", I read them. I think you need to read mine, and read the ones they were in response to then you'll understand why I'm talking about anarchists and your talking about democraps. I didn't say "don't protest" and I didn't say that "all protestors should be penned up". I said the idiots protesting at the Republican National Convention should be penned up; as the Democrats insisted that the protestors at the Democrat National Convention were penned up. Don't act like you have some right to protest in the streets and I don't. All of you comparisons were crap, I didn't say 'no social disobediance'. Lets just see a show of hands here: How many people would support anarchists (not protestors) disrupting the RNC?
*raises hand* I would support the disruption of the RNC and DNC. republicans just seem to have a knack for pissing more people off.
Subject: a letter from Seattle Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 10:31:10 PST From: "cliff kadmon" To Whom It May Concern: I am a young man living in the Seattle area. I am not going to reveal my name, for reasons that will be obvious. Several weeks ago I was approached by the representative of a major company. I was offered a lucrative, temporary job as a demonstrator as part of a 'media event' that the company rep said she was involved in planning. I was offered $35 an hour, plus bonuses and meals, for a job that would last a week or so. Being a rather poor college student, I jumped at the offer. I was assured it was all legal. I signed a strict non-disclosure agreement. And I was given a few days paid training. All of this was before I had heard about the upcoming World Trade Organization meeting. In fact, I didn't really know what the WTO was. In the past few days I have carried protest signs and chanted slogans for various causes - whales, farmers, human rights, rainforests; I have blocked traffic, been shoved, kicked, tear-gassed, arrested (bail promptly paid), worn a panda bear costume, and been on tv; I've been well-fed on steaks and shrimp and pizza; had a hell of a lot of fun; made some good cash money and recieved some merchandise bonuses like vitamins and Pepsi stuff; - and become totally disillusioned with our political system. The company that hired me is Archer Daniels Midland, but Pepsi was somehow involved, too (and no doubt some others). The demonstrations this past week in Seattle are contrived and manufactured. I'm sure that many of the people out there are sincerely trying to further their cause, but many more are just nuts getting caught up in the moment, and some are paid agitators (like me and about another 100 or so that I know of). I'm not out there anymore, though, I took my cash last night and left, went back to school. Here's the thing: Have you noticed how the aims of many of the protestors for the most part actually go along with the aims of the WTO and the multi-national corporations? The 'event' is being portrayed as a demonstration against capitalism, but actually is about stricter environment and labor controls, and stricter international standards in many areas. This is the agenda of the WTO and the New World Order. It is all part of the one-world government thing. It is all about more CONTROL over people. When I saw this, I walked away. All of this should be obvious to thoughtful people, but the media are drooling all over each other covering this story as if it were some kind of spontaneous happening, instead of the staged drama it really is. People think the New World Order is just something some crazy person on the internet thought up, but I first heard it from the mouth of President George Bush years ago. The New World Order is alive and growing.I just wanted to put the word out on this to counter the prevailing spin. All is not as it seems! Just Some Guy - a NWO shill
There is mounting evidence of state collusion with the "black bloc" in Genoa and use of provocateurs. A Catholic priest saw 'anarchists' getting out of a police van. Others saw 'men in black' in police stations and undercover agents throwing Molotov cocktails. CWI members witnessed black-clad men standing beside the police. A London Evening Standard journalist saw a plainclothes police officer disguised as a journalist fire a gun in the air: this police tactic could put journalists at risk. On the Friday while some protesters were smashing and looting, police sat and watched. When Carlo Giuliani's police killer was "trapped" in a police van, other police vehicles were parked less than 30 metres away. Many protesters were very upset about the antics of the few hundred anarchists in a global assembly of about 100,000 people. Fabio Bellini, a 25-year-old Genoan, told me: "It is right to demonstrate against the G-8. It's right to fight for a better world, and that's why I'm here. But I don't understand the window breaking. I'm sad for Genoa." Pam Foster, the coordinator of the Halifax Initiative in Canada, asked: "Why did the police go after peaceful demonstrators but take their time dealing with the anarchists?"