U.S. Government

Discussion in 'Protest' started by DeadlyPinay, Dec 21, 2006.

  1. DeadlyPinay

    DeadlyPinay Member

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    F*CK THE GOVERNMENT!! They always favor the rich! All just because the rich pays 'em off!

    Here's an example:
    Tax cuts. The rich has a higher tax cut. I mean, what's up with that? They have the money, let them pay more! Rich people are freakin' cheapskates! The rich just pays off the government, but hardly anyone knows that.

    Also, they're f*ckin' liars! Especially George Bush. I mean, c'mon! Are we gonna win the war or not?! Make up your mind!! That is, if you have one.
     
  2. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    I sincerely doubt a 12 year old is going to convince tax payers and home owners that you have anything to add to the story - what on earth do you know about tax, young lady?
    ha ha ha -
    heres a nice book to read
    http://www.irs.gov/

    Its very admirable that you feel passionate about political outcomes but I think most people over the age of 20 will feel slightly awkward about being urged into conflict with government by someone who hasnt yet mastered at least 1/2 the classics of literature, and is still too young to vote
    Joan of Arc was an exception and led the French against the English at the age of 16 but there is doubt as to the authenticity of the story
    The English aristocracy believe it was a political trick by the French to make them look like they were outwtted by a girl who was of humble origins
    you may like to read about her - she is an inspiration to all who battle against the odds and I like to think its a true story - yes even though I'm English
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arc
    [​IMG]
     
  3. Haid

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    Who owns all the businesses that keep people employed at all? You do you think developes new companies and therefore creates employment? I don't blame anyone for working hard enough to become rich. Most of them have to dedicate their lives to doing so and in the process usually help others to get by. I know that I am to lazy to put in the hours required to hold a top position or run a company. In my opinion there should be a flat tax on income for everyone. Rich and poor should pay the same percentage.

    Its hard to truely win any war without a clear determination to win by a country. Unfortunately that is hard to come by anymore. People lose resolve quickly.
     
  4. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    Perhaps the rich buy the equipment but thats where their knowledge ends - they need the working class more than we need them. I worked on computerss at a multinational. The boss once said - "You dont own this computer system" I said " I mastered the technology - you bought it - This is a box of nothing without my skills - therefore I own its production value.
    As though there isnt an alternative? Why do these wealthy people fear socialism and anarchism so much. You think they give a toss about anything but creating more wealth for them and their kids?
    Maybe if they had a social conscience they would pay more tax to pay for more cops to protect their investment in the workforce - but no - your lifes cheap and if you get done over - they get someonelse just as cheap or cheaper. They dont invest in workers they invest in banks
    aint that the truth. Get by is all - while they stuff their pockets and buy security guards you eek out an existence in their sweatshop wasting your life selling your time on this planet so they can tell you to eff off as soon as they dont need you.
    Meanwhile they paid you $10,000 but you gained them $150,000
    As long as they do work huh? I mean the definition of "a capitalist" is anyone who creates wealth not by their physical labour but by investing wealth already gained (capital) to create more wealth.
    and maybe not rich enough - who trusts the bank to a pauper?
    Oh so you are a right winger - thankfully there are countries where the rich pay more because they usurp more of societies benifits and I dont mean welfar I mean they are the ones whos factories pollute they drive big cars 3etc
    Do me a favour that means some guy who is on $10 per hour at 25% tax not only has to pay $2.50 but in any returns by the inland revenue will only see what $0.02 they owe him back
    compare that to mr fatass businessman who gets $100 pays $25 tax and gets back through expense claims and tax loopholes about $15
    dont tell me the rich are hard done by - perhaps if you actually went out and lived like a pauper for a month you'd get it !

    Meanwile lets not quibble about exact figures - lets just see whose got a smile on their face at the supermarket checkout
    Mr rip-ya-life-off the businessman or mr workshard the factory guy?
     
  5. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    Fantastic Passion for a 12 year old, good to see you've got your nose into more than just a gameboy.

    want to make a difference?

    Start by educating yourself: http://infoshop.org/faq/secAcon.html

    Fashion yourself mentally, physically, and some would say spiritually.

    keep at it little bro!
     
  6. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    Is it right to politicise a 12 year old?
    In Britain its an offence to hand political literature to people of school age
    I'm only questioning whether you would like it if someone gave your child fascist literature - dont get me wrong I am only questioning the judgement call of teaching someone that may have parents who could object. Its sort of not quite right but I'm open to your opinions shane. They may not want their child taught an extremist political methodology - prefering instead that the child learn moderate politics first (which I dont sympathise with)
    could be construed as - a cult thing or ya know what i mean
     
  7. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    Is it right not to? Someone's going to get to him first, better me than a skinhead or somebody. as far as my kids, lets just say that my oldest is 2 years old and you can bet your ass he'll have something to say to his kindergarten teachers (if i don't homeschool him)! Politics aren't dirty and are far more important than brittany spears or p diddy. and it sounds like he's already headed my way anyway...

    an illegal offense or a cultural offense?

    cause either way i don't care, truth is always medicine.

    besides, why should a non british person conform to the values of the british?
     
  8. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    If anyone hands out political literature in the street to schoolage people its a criminal offence - fascist groups were targeting schools with racist literature
    see my post 1 above yours - i added to it
    anarchism isnt "the truth" its "a truth" one amongst many
     
  9. Shane99X

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    lol!

    and i added to mine!

    someone's gonna reach him first, better it's me than someone else.

    You don't think post #4 was politicizing?!?!

    Politics is in everything, idealogy is in every conversation.

    don't be ashamed to speak to children about politics, they're affected by it as much as you and i.

    and lets not forget, the 12 year olds of today are the revolutionaries of tomorrow.
     
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    sentient Senior Member

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    besides, why should a non british person conform to the values of the british?

    I wouldnt like to be responsible for what a kid with an immature mind might do with that information and wouldnt want to be responsible for having to justify to a parent what right I had to teach stuff that contradicted or might contradict what they want to teach their kid - what right do I have to inform their kids mind?

    Thats fine but what if when he's 12 some blokes teaching him he's white and supreme and to hate blacks and asians and arabs?
    I'm pretty sure I'd go ballistic if it were mine
     
  11. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    If they're passing laws on who to hand lit to, it sounds like they already are...

    ever heard of the band Prussian Blue?

    Ever heard of child soldiers?

    ever heard of child labor/child slavery?

    children are not seperate from this world.

    and him posting in the protest forum of a left leaning hippy website saying Fuck th U.S. government tells me that somebody's already teaching him something. he didnt start a thread about pokemon for christsake...
     
  12. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    ahhhhh its all going out of sequence too many edits and re - edits
    heeeeeeellllllpppp !

    post number 4 was in response to someone who thought the sun shone out of rich peoples arses
    I was just redressing the balance by showing that it was actually a security guards torch that was wedged up there after a row about wages
     
  13. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    so a right winger was getting to him first, right?

    were's the harm in providing some bal? :)
     
  14. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    TRUE - its a girl as well - by christ theyre getting anarchist these days ! maybe there is hope anyhow this conversation will bore them to tears and will get them back to that pokemon gamme

    no harm at all but I just think inviting them over to kropotkins place was a bit heavy not at all like reading "the beano" - er google it
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beano
    as compared to
    anyway I suppose she wont be back now - probably gone to fight in the revolution in bolivia
     
  15. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    a girl? my bad.

    as far as too heavy? depends ont he person probably. I was reading Marx and Spinoza at 12.

    and it's infoshop, not exactly militant, and idont know any "fuck the man" kids websites.

    hey kid: google crimethink, they are are a little less boring anyway...

    and read the Unabombers Manifesto, it's interesting at least.

    and the president was behind 9/11.

    the CIA was behind the crack epidemic.

    Dr. King had a dream and was killed for it.

    you're never too young, i'd play a tape of this in the womb if i could...



    and this shit: "Thats fine but what if when he's 12 some blokes teaching him..." Is exactly why the U.K. is such a fucking police state.

    1984 and Brave New World.

    Both set in london, think about it...
     
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    Actually I reckon she's on her way to bolivia right now and will be the new che guevarra
    She'll probably be a revolutionary hero next month
    I could be wrong but her DOB and the picture on her personal page looks a bit at odds
     
  17. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    she's banned anyway - wonder what happened ?

    probably threw all her toys out the pram at someone
     
  18. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    either way, she's been banned already...
     
  19. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    jinx


    ttfn, see ltr sentient. :)
     
  20. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    I just said that at exactly the same time

    great minds think alike - see you round bud ! take care
     

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