alcoholism and mental illness

Discussion in 'Mental Health' started by psyche23ca, Dec 25, 2006.

  1. psyche23ca

    psyche23ca Member

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    hiya,
    lately i been having a prob with alcohol drinking a lot cuase of loneliness. i got no real life friends i go no job no where to go. im on a pension cuase im schizophrenic. so i stop drinkin a few days ago and start withdrawing 2 days after. so i freak out and mom gives me a few shots n the sickness goes away and that scares me? does anyone else have drug or alcohol probs due to lonliness or lack of life? there is no support network for meand i feel really isolated. sometimes i wish for death but it never comes.

    -hippi
     
  2. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

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    It is VERY common for people with mental disorders to self medicate with alcohol. Massive amounts of it that would put a "normal" person under the table. Quite plainly, they say it makes them feel better. (I think it's got something to do with trying to be "normal":)) Unfortunately, it seems to make the illness worse. I suppose if you are on disability you are on meds? Lots of folks who choose to self medicate go off their prescribed meds, 'cause they think they are doing OK without them. But drinking never did much for anybodys judgement as far as what "OK" is.
    But anyhow, you'll not get better if you keep drinking. Believe me. If you're truely schizophrenic, keep working on the meds. Sometimes they need changed for one reason or another. WEAN OFF ALCOHOL a little at a time, don't try to quit all at once. You'll end up drinking even more to combat how horrible you will be feeling from coming off alcohol itself plus coming off being anesthetized from your illness...
    If you are so miserable as to feel suicidal, then ANY positive interaction would be a good thing. Having said that, when in doubt, try church. No, I'm not at all a church type person!!!!! But if there is NOTHING else for you to do in your search for some type of friends or support group, church and the internet are always options. Certainly better than death? With an open mind, you never know what might come about, it's all an adventure. You just really need to do something to take you outside yourself and your problems. So a change in scenery, even a small one, would help. Maybe some volunteer work? Change of routines? Drag yourself out sometimes and go to a friendly neighborhood coffee shop and just start talking about the weather or something with some old timers. You know, the kind who everybody seems to know their first names. You might be amazed!
     
  3. desert nightmare

    desert nightmare Senior Member

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    Well from an experience with my dad last night that i wise i could take back i'd say that alcohol is a mother fucking dick hole! He was a chronic alcohloic for 15 years straight then went to rehab, sobered up for several years, and now he's back at it all over again. He claims it's his medicine for his nerve problems. The only reason he has nerve problems in the first place is because of the goddamn alcohol. It will pull you into it so hard, and slap blinding dust in your eyes like your a little bitch. Ruin your relationship with family and friends.

    Last night he tells me he started drinking again, and everyday to. I try to get in a deep conversation with him about something that was serious to me and really bothering me, but he just keeped going of the subject, and being very disrepectful toward me. I cvan tell the alcohol is taking him staight down. Our conversation ended by him insulting my brother behind his back about selling cars, and making good money at his job. He said it in a childish, jealous way too. After that he sort of just passed out.

    This whole incedient has really bothered me, because i was so confedent that he was set straight after rehab. And i've really looked up to my father. He's been the inspiration to my art. But i just don't know what to do now.
     
  4. yarapario

    yarapario Village Elder

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    Earthmother gave superb advice. The effects of the alcohol can prevent the medications from working and your schizophrenia will worsen causing you to feel like driking more cause you're bummed out. Its a downward spiral into Hell. As she said find any HEALTHY group where you can get support and understanding. Some churches don't understand mental illness and can give bad advice. Make sure the people you listen to know what they are talking about. There is an organization called NAMI, National Association for Mental Illness... maybe check out their website and look for a group in your area. Good Luck
     
  5. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

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    You really don't do anything. No matter what, he will only be able to give up alcohol when and if HE wants to, and it has to be more than just wanting. He has to be so disgusted with it and himself that he learns to HATE what it does to him. Ya can't have any meaningful conversation with a drunk. THEY might think it's meaningful at the time, but being drunk is just another form of mental handicap on TOP of any "nerve problems", except it is self imposed. He is at the total denial, "I can fix it my way" stage. He probably thinks the alcohol gives him some control over his problems, or maybe the thought of not being able to drink (being controlled) feels like having his balls cut off, a "manly" thing. They just don't get that it is the alcohol that's controlling them, and they are helpless to it... But there is nothing you can realy do except deal with it as best you can. The "nerve problems" are a very convenient excuse for the drinking, but it is the classic case of the medicine making you sicker than the sickness. Poisoning yourself to get well... The alcohol becomes like the bandage you use to try to cover up a big injury, it doesn't fix it, just makes it less noticeable to the one with the problem. They say you really have to scrape the bottom of the barrel before you can go up and I believe this is very true where alcoholism is concerned. He may have to scrape HARD and discover that UNDER the barrel is no place to stay. It's a learning process, sometimes taking years or forever, because some don't ever learn until they are too sick or dead for it to matter. The more a person is protected from himself and consequences of his destructive actions, the longer it takes to learn the right lessons. Take that piece of wisdom and use it wisely. That is really the only way you can help.
     
  6. desert nightmare

    desert nightmare Senior Member

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    Well i'll take your advice. And i do understand how numb headed drunks can be when it comes to anything. I think i'll just stay out of this.
     
  7. Bella Désordre

    Bella Désordre Charmed

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    I'm sorry. I have DID (multiple personalities) and over indulge in alchohol when my darker personality comes out. It is strange at times I am myself I am good with two drinks but when I turn into this other person i can do shot after shot and wake up the next morning fine.
    I went to the ER last night with food posiing and my liver enzymes were off the chart high. I was given an AA pamphlet. I only drink about once every two weeks but when I do I tend to have 10-15 drinks and I'm only around 140-150 pounds. I can't drink anymore.
    Have you ever been to see a psychiatrist? benzodiazapines are great when weaning off of alchohol.
     
  8. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    hmmmm.....I have the same problem! *cheers* :) Seriously though, I have no intention to quit, if I didnt drink at least enough everyday to keep me from being sick, I would be MUCH worse. I may quit someday but as for right now, especially being a single parent and dealing with mental problems, I need at least some. Oh well, I found a really nice girl who has a daughter to be friends with, so I have people other than my cousins to talk to. My son is too young yet, I mean to have a real conversation with that is lol. But I never drink when he is awake and playing, I drink when he goes to sleep, and even then I dont get smashed. Plus were anything to happen, I live directly across the street from one of the hospitals :)
     
  9. sm0key42o8

    sm0key42o8 Senior Member

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    My family has a history of all these problems, just the fact you know you have the problem is a step in the right direction. You seem to have a good grasp on reality, so just know you are moving in the right direction in cuttin out the drinking. Have you talked to your mom about this? She would be the one I would go to first. Have you talked to any DR. about this also? There are many was of getting help, some are harder to find than others, just look around and keeps your thoughts positive. You will make it man. Remeber you have a family of over 58,000 brothas and sistas here that are always here and will do what ever we can to help you out!

    Keep us posted...
     
  10. desert nightmare

    desert nightmare Senior Member

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    Alcohol! it'll burn your soul!
     
  11. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Maybe your mouth, throat, and stomach (if you haven't eaten before consumption) but your soul? I dont know about all that Jim.
     
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