Racial profile or a duck looking like a duck

Discussion in 'Protest' started by YankNBurn, Dec 25, 2006.

  1. YankNBurn

    YankNBurn Owner

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061225/us_nm/immigration_raids_dc

    This article fell short of a comedy skit but did come close. How can 1,300 people be arrested for being here unlawfully but they compare it to the jews being rounded up for no reason?

    If a group of people are commiting a crime and in plants that have a history of assisting in these crimes then you should be allowed to continue to target these places and these people working in them.
     
  2. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    That is rediculous. How can anyone compare arresting and deporting illegal immigrants to herding Jews into concintration camps?

    Reminds me of the black *ooops I mean "African American" community in my town. Anyone and everyone can go buy some crack of almost any given man standing on the corner, but the police are being racists for patrolling that neighborhood more than the sober ass yupies. They went as far as trying to declare themselves an indipendant town, to get away from the ''unjust'' racial profiling. Stop selling crack and you won't get arrested!!!!
     
  3. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    What's additionally odd is these same illegals would not presume to be protected by their own country's government while living there. That's one of the reasons they pay "coyotes" to come here. Because we are supposed to turn a blind eye and then support them with our government services even though they have broken our laws to get here.

    If they have legitimate papers when there is a raid they are at no risk of deportation.
     
  4. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    Exactly. If they aren't doing anything wrong than a raid wouldn't affect them.
     
  5. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    Racial profiling doesn't work anymore, there's black jews, there's latino hindus, I know some, so you can no longer use that as a tool, it doesn't work, a frenchman with a bussiness suit can be a suicide bomber.
     
  6. blinkin

    blinkin Senior Member

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    well I do think its profiling, though what else are they going todo?
    I mean an immigration officer goes to a factory, who is he going to approach, the white dude speaking english with a southern accent? or a latino man who doesnt speak english.......????

    kinda makes sence,
    though honestly I do agree it is remarkably similar to what happened to the jews, ....a hebrew man would be working one day then locked up in a ghetto the next forced from his work and putinto a truck......
    its the same thing, just different reasons....oh wait a sec theres no different reasons, back in the day :arrest that man hes not german
    now: arrest that man hes not american


    comeon people think out side the box for a minute, I iknow your whole life you have been told to hate illegals.....what the hell is the difference to them then your fore fathers?

    your family came legally...bullshit, there were no papers back when this country was founded, you got ona boat then you got off the boat!!!!!!
    what does it say on the statue of liberty? give me your poor your oppressed......


    what the hell?
     
  7. blinkin

    blinkin Senior Member

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    nope just trying to feed there family, you know put clothes on there kids food in there bellies, I guess they could go back to there own country and make a quarter for a days work....would that be the "right" thing toi do, or is ot more right to do what ever you could to make your families life better!!!!
     
  8. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Big difference not all Mexicans are detained only those that do not have legal papers. As to them only making a 25 cents a day in Mexico, then they need to stay home and change their own government.
     
  9. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I am not responsible for the state of corruption in their country, neither am I responsible for their families. They don't want to give up their Mexican citizenship to come here, we are expected to pay them, support their families on medicare and medicaid and let them send their money home to Mexico. They will protest here why don't they protest for better living conditions in their own country?

    They have a large country with a moderate climate and many natural resources, why should they have to come here to work. One word: corruption. And it's been going on for years. Who's going to make it stop? The populus has to do that and they will only be motivated to act when the US stops enabling them to survive by working here and continuing to promote the corruption in their home country.
     
  10. blinkin

    blinkin Senior Member

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    i dont think thats going to happen....I mean people changing there own society...
    This one is fucked enough, see anyone standing up saying no?

    your right its not your problem...its theres thats why there doing what they can to survive, or should they stand up and get shot or locked up? how would that better themselves? there families?

    wait so there working under false papers.....there not paying taxes?
    I want those papers


    how are you supporting them? how do they rely on you for anything?
    jobs?
    what the hell is wrong with that?
    I thought thats how capatlisim is run, competition in business?
    competition in labour is the same concept....or are you scared you'll have to work harder?
    as far as I know those illegals work there ass ......they get the "opportunity" to work and they work hard....how many folk here lag around all day protected by a union.....
     
  11. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    There aren't many unions left how many people do you know work union? Your singing an old song that doesn't work any longer.

    I work hard and I've worked in the fields right along with the migrants so don't feed me your bull. And I've ask them why they are here and it's because of corruption in Mexico. They have to pay three officials and several other people for every permit they get.

    Our taxes pay for Medicare and Medicaid and pay for indigent medical care. That's how I pay and support them.

    If they won't stand up for their rights in their own country why should I worry about their rights here?

    Would you like the US workplace to sink to the level of that in Mexico, well allow this illegal workplace to grow and you may just get your wish.
     
  12. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    The person that should be profiled and jailed is the employer that knowingly continues to fill his workplace with illegals. They should get long hard time and perhaps the tidal wave of illegal immigration would stop.

    Let them move their factories to Mexico. If they operating hotels and other service industries let them try to function in Mexico. Perhaps things would change.
     
  13. Roct

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    So blinkin,
    Who gets to choose what laws are acceptable to break, you?

    If I broke into your house and robbed you, would you want me arrested or not? What if I did it to support my family in Mexico, would it be ok then? If so, whats your address?
     
  14. blinkin

    blinkin Senior Member

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    Im not saying anyone should break laws, I think the illegal workers problem needs a solution,

    how are illegals robbing you? by working ???

    as for no unions are you nuts?
    I deal with them all the time, 35 doillars anhour for labourer at some locals,
    my buddy ius a brick layer union, my brother plumbers union, theres the steel workers, man theres a newyork city cab union...
     
  15. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Where exactly is that purple bus located? Because no one in California union or not is pulling that kind of pay. And plumbers deserve what they make. You ever been upside down under a sink and had shit run all over you.

    How about resizing that signature photo of yours it distorts the board.
     
  16. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Here's how they are robbing us:

     
  17. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    If they come here illegaly than they know it's illegal. They should know that if they get caught they will be deported. If they want to come here and break 'silly' laws thats fine, but they shouldn't be able to bitch about it when they get locked up. They know what the consiquences are. If they want to aviod the consiquence, they should come here legally.


    If they want to better their families lives that is awesome. But they come here and deny America. They want to be Mexican, and Mexican only. A Mexican that makes American money, thats what they want. They don't want to be American citizens, they just want to reap the benefits of America without facing the consiquence
     
  18. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Its not race, its citizenship status.

    Hispanic is a culture that
    contains all of the races within it.

    Its too bad that there is no sympathy for marajuana violators
    when they get arrested.


    :troll:
     
  19. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    There isn't a fuckin diner or restaurant in America that doesn't have illegals
    working there.
     
  20. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Does that make it right?
     
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