Hi, just(yesterday) tried sally out, we ordered a kilo from www.salvialight.com we figured what the hell, we have the cash to blow. Not quite sure what we did wrong, but we didn't feel too much. The leaves we got were whole leaves, and my friend had a nice water pipe. We loaded it up with a single leaf(whole) lit up our jet flame and burned the leaf while taking in as big of a hit as we could, and held it for about 25 seconds. We each did about 2 leaves and felt(barely) anything at all. So my questions leading from the experiment.. What did we do wrong? Too much in the bowl at once? Do we need to crush it up first? We already used a realy hot jet flame lighter, so i don't think thats the problem. Someone that has done more with this, please help me out! Thanks in advance, AdOutsider
adoutsider: Extracts are actually better (at least from my experience and what I've heard) for using salvia. I don't think two leaves are usually considered enough to get more than a buzz from salvia; plus, you REALLY have to burn it hard when you're inhaling, especially if using leaves. You probably made it to the first stage and didn't realize it; it's called the "subtle" stage, and you really can't tell what's happening, though the feeling that SOMETHING is happening is apparent. Try again using more leaves (I think I remember hearing most people have to smoke about 8 leaves to get a powerful effect) or get an extract. And hang in there. Just a word of advice: Try to shrug off any bad feelings you get, and don't get scared; salvia is vastly different from any other drug out there, and the feeling coming on in less than a minute can be extremely scary. Try not to let it get to you. =) Edit: I also forgot to mention that you need to smoke it very quickly. Peak effects only last for 5 minutes, and many people who smoke cannibus are used to passing the bowl around for much longer than that. You really need to go as fast as possible, and even that may not be fast enough if you're using leaves; this is one of the reasons why extracts are so popular.
Thanks for the reply, and just wondering would I be better off grinding the leaves down into a fine powder, or leaving them as full leaves. Some research I have done since my earlier post seems to say that several small hits is better than one big hit. I also assume that ground leaves = more surface area = faster burning rate. Which would allow for me to take more in at once? I also tried a quid, and damn that shit was nasty... Just wondering, would soaking it in pop, or other liquids make it taste better, without losing any of the potency? P.S. On most sites talking of leaves, they said 1 gram is about as much as I want to take, in 1/4 gram hits. Well I aint much of a druggy, so I have no scale, and I have no clue how much a gram is. The leaves aren't very large leaves(me living in minnesota) So if someone could also tell me how much a gram is, or any clever ways to get close? I tried the rubber band weighing trick, but I can't seem to find a rubber band loose enough.(comparing it to a penny weighing 2.5 grams) Off to give Sally another try... Thanks for your time, -AdOutsider
I would not grind them down into a fine powder OR smoke as full leaves. I'd probably settle for the middle of both; crushed leaves, but not powder. And I would argue that you are wrong; several small hits (assuming you take the same amount of salvia total) are not better than one large hit. See, salvia burns. Quickly. The longer the bowl is lit, the more salvinorin A (which has a high vaporization temperature) is being burned (not vaporized) and becomes useless. More hits = more non-inhaled burn time. Beyond that, taking several small hits holding them in for a long time usually takes too long; ESPECIALLY if using leaves. Try to take big hits using a water-cooled pipe/bong. With salvia, surface area isn't as relevant because if you torch the bowl for more than half a second, practically the whole bowl is going to be lit, because as I said, salvia burns quickly. You can take more in at once if you use crushed leaves and take large hits (though this is MUCH harder to hold in, especially if you don't use a water-cooled bong). Pop or flavoring? I don't know ... you got me there. =P I heard that one gram is equal to about 4-6 leaves (depends on leaf size). Some people apparently like to go as high as 8, but they run the risk of getting TOO much from that and hitting the amnesic state of salvia (which is apparently pretty crappy). Again, I am no authority, but I hope I can help. ALSO ... I noticed you said "we" many times in your first post, referring to 2 leaves. The 4-6 leaves recommended dosage is for a single person; if you are talking about more than one person, then you're not smoking anywhere near enough. Try getting some 6x or 10x extract, it will work a whole lot better. Leaves are best for quidding, eating, or making a drink out of; not really for smoking. If you are interested in hearing my complete salvia experiences, read my earlier post. You might learn a lot from it. =) Good luck!
We reffering to the five us that ordered the kilo togethor, we weren't sharing hits, or water pipes, as we each have our own. But I got this stuff to work for me this time(last night) and I didn't put more in the bowl than I could take in one hit(thats what I meant by smaller hits) To avoid wasting any of it. What I was doing befor was shoving 2 whole leaves in, using a jet flame and taking a hit with the flame on the whole time. so on and so fourth, and the crushed up stuff worked a TON better. Thanks for all the help! Finaly got it to work out for me!
Hey, got back togethor with my friends, and two of them couldn't get an effect, and they a fair amount, with a realy hot jet flame, and held it for a good 20 seconds, does this just mean they are heard-heads?
They may very well be hard-heads ... the only way to make sure that they are is to research salvia more and make sure that there is nothing wrong with the techniques you are using get smoke it.
Finaly got it to work out nice and strong for me, I don't exactly remember it all, but I felt realy good when it was over, and I was definetly seeing things, I'm actualy liking this stuff more than pot... And its cheaper :-D. -Has anyone else found it to be damn near impossible to stand/walk while using sally? Or is that just me?
When I do it I smoke x5 or x10. I only put a tiny bit in the bowl and I only take one hit and have amazing trips. You have to keep the flame on it the whole time you're inhaling and hold it in as long as possible. Keep trying. It's worth it!!
