Pot and vegetarians:

Discussion in 'Vegetarian' started by johnnystillcantread, Jan 4, 2007.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. johnnystillcantread

    johnnystillcantread Member

    Messages:
    894
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hello! I was once told that only meat eating animals can get high from pot. So I wondered if this is true for humans.
     
  2. Alaxsxa

    Alaxsxa Member

    Messages:
    385
    Likes Received:
    0
    No it isnt true and whoever told you that was mistaken or lying to you. Also, humans are omnivores and i have never heard of a human herbivore (becoming vegetarian is a decision).
     
  3. lucyinthesky16

    lucyinthesky16 pirate wench

    Messages:
    1,159
    Likes Received:
    1
    haha what kind of animal does pot? :D id give anything to see a stoned giraffe!
     
  4. barter mama

    barter mama Member

    Messages:
    191
    Likes Received:
    0
    Um, this is a load of crap. Of course you can still get high if you're vegetarian! Why would THC stop affecting you? That makes no sense...
     
  5. hummblebee

    hummblebee hipstertist.

    Messages:
    2,158
    Likes Received:
    2
    lol, that would be funny. My big dog smokes. And gets notably high. It's not like we tried to get her "hooked" or anything, but she comes over while we're smoking and starts vocalizing and licking it up as we exhale. :) She's just a weirdo, but that's Jerry Bear for ya! :D

    And, yes, the notion the veg*ans can't get high is the silliest on I've heard in a while.
     
  6. johnnystillcantread

    johnnystillcantread Member

    Messages:
    894
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hello! I thank you all for answering my question.
     
  7. Avocado Noni

    Avocado Noni Member

    Messages:
    613
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't smoke anymore but I actually feel like I got more high when I went vegetarian. My body became much lighter and started to pick up whatever I put in it much more quickly.
    I rarely drink but all it takes to get me buzzing these days is a couple sips of wine....I was a lightweight as a meat eater, but now I'm a super light weight. I dont have all the fat+excess to buffer that stuff down anymore...
     
  8. AT98BooBoo

    AT98BooBoo Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,621
    Likes Received:
    3
    Humans are herbivores by design.Out teeth and digestive systems more closly resemble that of herbivores; NOT carnivores. Vegetarians out number carnirvores in the overall population of the world.

    India is mostly Hindu who are vegetarian byreligeous practice. A very large portion of China and varoius Asian countries enjoy a mostly vegetarian diet
     
  9. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

    Messages:
    16,345
    Likes Received:
    12
    technicaly incorrect
    humans are naturaly herbavours..
    they became semi omnivours way back..but only because of fire..cooking..a true omniivour can eat raw meat
    also..humans can only digest meat with the assistance of micro organisms in the digestive tract thbat digestthe meat for you
    after a year or 2 veg, they die off and your no longer ablre to digest meat because we are not designed to eat meat


    now on to the original question of the thread
    whoever said thats an idiot
    ok, an example..i had a chinchila..a vegatarian rodent..he ate a bud bigger thehn his head.....and it was extremely odvios he was high as hell...he was a total pothead and would steal buds right out of the bowl if u wernt payin attention..
    another example..cows..also vegatarians..i'm not 100% sure about this but i read somewhere that the high from pot was originaly discovered by farmers who observed theyre cows behaving differently after eatting weed

    any mammal gets high from weed..i cant say for sure about fish or birds or reptiles cause i have no idea how to tell if a snake or goldfish is high or not;..lol but i can definately say vegatarians love to get high :)
     
  10. salmon4me

    salmon4me Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,099
    Likes Received:
    4
    Omnivorism

    The key category in the discussion of human diet is omnivores, which are defined as generalized feeders, with neither carnivore nor herbivore specializations for acquiring or processing food, and who are capable of consuming and do consume both animal protein and vegetation. They are basically *opportunistic* feeders (survive by eating what is available) with more generalized anatomical and physiological traits, especially the dentition (teeth). All the available evidence indicates that the natural human diet is omnivorous and would include meat. We are not, however, required to consume animal protein. We have a choice.
     
  11. salmon4me

    salmon4me Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,099
    Likes Received:
    4
    technicaly incorrect

    Please see the post above this one.
     
  12. salmon4me

    salmon4me Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,099
    Likes Received:
    4
    Science:

    Evidence of Humans as Omnivores

    Archeological Record
    As far back as it can be traced, clearly the archeological record indicates an omnivorous diet for humans that included meat. Our ancestry is among the hunter/gatherers from the beginning. Once domestication of food sources began, it included both animals and plants.

    Cell Types
    Relative number and distribution of cell types, as well as structural specializations, are more important than overall length of the intestine to determining a typical diet. Dogs are typical carnivores, but their intestinal characteristics have more in common with omnivores. Wolves eat quite a lot of plant material.

    Fermenting Vats
    Nearly all plant eaters have fermenting vats (enlarged chambers where foods sits and microbes attack it). Ruminants like cattle and deer have forward sacs derived from remodeled esophagus and stomach. Horses, rhinos, and colobine monkeys have posterior, hindgut sacs. Humans have no such specializations.

    Jaws
    Although evidence on the structure and function of human hands and jaws, behavior, and evolutionary history also either support an omnivorous diet or fail to support strict vegetarianism, the best evidence comes from our teeth.

    The short canines in humans are a functional consequence of the enlarged cranium and associated reduction of the size of the jaws. In primates, canines function as both defense weapons and visual threat devices. Interestingly, the primates with the largest canines (gorillas and gelada baboons) both have basically vegetarian diets. In archeological sites, broken human molars are most often confused with broken premolars and molars of pigs, a classic omnivore. On the other hand, some herbivores have well-developed incisors that are often mistaken for those of human teeth when found in archeological excavations.

    Intestines
    Intestinal absorption is a surface area, not linear problem. Dogs (which are carnivores) have intestinal specializations more characteristic of omnivores than carnivores such as cats. The relative number of crypts and cell types is a better indication of diet than simple length. We are intermediate between the two groups.

    Conclusion

    Humans are classic examples of omnivores in all relevant anatomical traits. There is no basis in anatomy or physiology for the assumption that humans are pre-adapted to the vegetarian diet. For that reason, the best arguments in support of a meat-free diet remain ecological, ethical, and health concerns.
     
  13. salmon4me

    salmon4me Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,099
    Likes Received:
    4
    "Vegetarian" apes: a misconception of the past

    First, as mentioned above, the idea that apes (or primates in general) are strict vegetarians in the normal human sense of the word is a misconception of the past. This point is clarified in Sussman [1987, pp. 166, 168]:

    In fact, most species of primate are omnivorous (see Harding [1981]) and omnivory should be considered an evolutionarily conservative and generalized trait among primates. Primates evolved from insectivores....
    Thus, omnivorous primates are mainly frugivorous and, depending upon body size, obtain most of their protein from insects and leaves. In all large, omnivorous, nonhuman primates, animal protein is a very small but presumably necessary component of the diet.


    In the above, the term omnivore has the usual definition; e.g., from Milton [1987, p. 93]: "By definition, an omnivore is any animal that takes food from more than one trophic level. Most mammals are in fact omnivorous...". ["Trophic" refers to the different levels of the food chain.] Note that some experts use a different, more precise definition for the term omnivore, and disagree that mammals are omnivores--instead they suggest using the term faunivore for animals that regularly include fauna (other animals) in their diet.
     
  14. napolean inrags95

    napolean inrags95 Member

    Messages:
    637
    Likes Received:
    0
    nahh, we can still get high. trust me [​IMG]
     
  15. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

    Messages:
    17,831
    Likes Received:
    1,738
    I think we've coverd this and it's turning into the naturally omni-herbi bit. Go back to the many threads of that type we have.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice