Tamee, how I feel what you're saying! I am FIGHTING, literally fighting, to get through school so that I can have another one! I want about 8...but cody said that I'd have to find a sperm donor....there's no way he's having that many kiddos. I *think* that we've agreed on 4. lol I'm kinda like mamaboogie, though...the older that Leane is getting, the more fun that I'm having. The first few months were a living hell...I had no idea what I was doing, had PPD and no one to help me...frustrating times. But now I feel a little smarter and like I'm ready to face this head on next time instead of entering motherhood with a blindfold on, even though I know the next kiddos are going to through just as many curve balls!!!! But yeah, I wanna have a bunch more. How I miss being preggers! It was pretty much at this exact time 2 years ago that I found out that I was preggers with Leane, and I'm achin for the positive test again! I keep tellin myself that I just have to get through until I'm 25 and then we're good to go....but that's soooooo long away!!!!! WAHHHHHHH!
Thank you, Salmon. I think what people can handle is reasonable. If that is four, that is great. If that is only one, then that is cool. If it is 8, that is cool, too.
Do you think selfishness ever plays a part in wanting a lot of kids? I am very selfish and that's why I don't want any, btw.
Parenthood is all about giving and sacrifice, so people that want a lot of children (at least on this board) are just about giving and the miracle of pregnancy/children. I don't think any of them are selfish.
I have two. I wanted four, but my body disagrees with me on that one... so I have two, and volunteer with zillions of other kids during the week. A compromise, maybe - but one I can live with. love, mom
I'm going to start with two and see how we go. Might find that's enough, or end up with loads. It won't be for a long time, so am not going to get hung up about it. Considering how much in terms of time, funds and attention my parents have to devote to my brother and I ... hmm nope, I think raising children well is one of the most selfless things you can do. I totally respect those who are childfree by choice because they couldn't be good parents. It's the people who aren't capable but have kids anyway that you have to worry about, as if the world doesn't have enough fucked up people in already.
NO. O agree with HippyFreek, kids are too much work to be made for selfishnes (unless you have them and have someone else raise them, which some people, like Hollywood stars and people like Madonna do.) I also do not think that NOT wanting kids is selfish either, no one should have children unless they REALLY want them. If one chooses to not have kids, that is THEIR choice, and NOT a selfish one. Having a child you don't even want or don't want to take care of is a different story, though.
I CAN debate a mod, so I will...as soon as I get this to tamee: won't the adopted child be your own? If you cannot know that in your bones, don't adopt. The kid will know in hers. Trust me. I know that my father sees me as the adopted kid. My mom, well, I'm her baby girl. It shows, even now. It feels different, and my brother used it every day of our shared childhood. Maggie, I do believe that the planet is stretched to its productive limits, especially because of the consumerists. but it is the breeder yuppies that get me: living on the edge of bankruptcy to keep mama at home, but not down scaling the biggest expenses: shelter and transport. Remember the article I posted about the mama who was widowed suddenly while pregnant with the last? they are all on social services and living in a tiny apartment (that's seven kids, the oldest, over 18, is unable to live independently) We can absorb a few of these, but what happens with the financial bubble pops? If a family is willing to scale down (like HS mama does, like I did) and keep mama home that is great, but overall, we need to look at zero or negative population growth worldwide. I had one child born. I have been married twice, he is the only product of those men and myself, that's negative 2 population. My son is thinking about two. that still leaves him at negative with one female partner without any additional children, sice he does not replace himself. I drive a gas car with @ 30 mpg (it is aging). I walk to work 3 days a week, don't shop for shopping sake (although I will window shop when I need to be reminded why I chose my lifestyle), and I continue to lessen my ecological impact. Having only one child is part of that desicion. I do know people too selfish to be parents: the trainer at the rec center who announced at 8 months gestation (child 2 or 3) that she would take only three weeks off for the baby. She said that she would not nurse because it would keep her out of the gym. the man who does not pay support, causing children to live in poverty, which has a high waste amount for food (at home and at fast food), and clothing that wears out before it is outgrown, toys that don't last, etc. the mom who doesn't care where her teens are running at night, the dad who is more involved in work than family.
Oh, I do too. That is what I meant by people who are having children that they don't actually want. As for the Enviromental impact. We'll have to agree to disagree. I think there are a LOT of imporant issues involved in having children, and the Enviroment is ONLY ONE of them. There are other issues besides the enviroment to keep in mind. And, they are just as important.
Our baby is about a year old now, and i've been thinking about having another soon very much. DH says that it would be best to wait until late 2007-early 2008 to get 'started' due to out debt. I agree but I want the kids to be close in age badly! It's hard to wait!! After this next one I don't think we'll be having anymore.
I really miss my kids as babies.All the goofy things ,the precious things,the things that drove me to distraction--all gone.Then again,I also really appreciate and love them as big ones.They're fine and talented people.But yeah---I'd love to have more kids--not going to happen tho--father time you know.
Just for some clarification, do you also totally respect those who are childfree by choice even though they could be good parents?