Is God humanitys worst mistake?

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Gravity, Jan 3, 2007.

  1. Gravity

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    well, is it?
     
  2. Shane99X

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  3. bamboo

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    Gravity...I am a 50-something white guy that grew up in the racist, white bible belt and after a lifetime of hearing it and seeing it first hand, i can honestly say that "HATE" for no reason other than stupidity is man's worst invention. If folks use god and religion to further that hate it becomes even worse. I don't care if folks believe in god or not. I will accept any justification for folks who love and do good and I will despise anyone who hates for no reason.
     
  4. Gravity

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    I gotta ask how is agriculture a mass mistake?

    I agree comercial agriculture is in many ways, but the truth is without forms of agriculture...we would starve.
     
  5. heeh2

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    time will tell
     
  6. relaxxx

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    If I believed in God, I would tend to ask is humanity God's worst mistake?

    The combination of the new industrial age mixed with old world religious ignorance is the most destructive concoction of mankind.

    For the sake of their God's, man has been killing man for millions of years. Rocks and swords kill man but not mankind nor the balance of earth's echosystem. Industrial age waste and weapons threaten to destroy mankind within a few hundred years.

    Society has drastically changed in the past 160 years, changed in a way that is devastatingly incompatible with thousand year old religious belief systems. We are witnessing first hand what happens when technology and industry evolve faster than our social and religious systems and beliefs.

    Not recognizing the self destructive nature of religion, religious ignorance and fanaticism will soon be the worst mistake man has ever made. There are entire nations of extremists learning to hate as soon as they speak. The cycle of this sickness needs to stop, it is probably already too late.
     
  7. themnax

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    god; whatever god or gods may happen to actualy exist, isn't HUMANITY'S ANYthing!
    the idea that anything is in fallable or needs to be, IS.

    three things are known to exist: science, self deception, and the unknown.

    science isn't the unknown, but it damd sure isn't self deception.

    the unknown isn't science, and it isn't self deception either, but it is UN-known!

    and finaly self deception, is neither science NOR the unknown!

    so whatever god or gods there are, that's THEIR thing.
    whatever we think we know about it, well that's just us, blowing smoke up our own assess.

    i don't, for the life of me, know why, so many people, have so much difficulty, seeing this as the two very different things that they are.

    =^^=
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  8. relaxxx

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    If God or God's happen to NOT exist then their concept IS and can ONLY BE a creation of man and nothing more.
     
  9. heeh2

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    that statement isnt even pertaining to the question.....
     
  10. Nothingisreal

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    I'm leaning towards a yes on this question. After watching What the @#*& Do We Know? (good but long and confusing) and so many other things that they did say that god may have been a not so good idea.
     
  11. MichaelByrd1967

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    Most definitely, YES! There has not been a concept that has torn humanity apart, more than the belief in either one god or many gods. The only religion that really hasn't been hung up on this is Buddhism, but they are still guilty of the same misfortunes as other religions.
     
  12. Varuna

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    When you say God, what do you mean?

    Until you address this question, your question remains undefined and doesn't make any sense.

    Peace and Love
     
  13. BeaverKoffi

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    Bamboo - You madea very intellegent comment. GOD of course doenst exist, with information and technology age , people becoming more aware of things and it is just one of those steps of progress to understand that there is no GOD.
    I AGREE with you bambo. religion isnt worst thing, if it serves a beneficial and positive role in persons's life , let it be. But it is human nature, to gain power and take as much as possible for their good. That is why religion is being so brutal right now , expecially in middle east. But we will survive, dont worry :)
     
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    1. God
    2. A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
    3. The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.
    1. A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality.
    2. An image of a supernatural being; an idol.
    3. One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed: Money was their god.
    4. A very handsome man.
    5. A powerful ruler or despot.
    courtesy of dictionary.com....
     
  15. themnax

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    that is absolutely correct. the problem is, the mistake that athiests and theists shaire in common, is immagining that anything HAS TO be as they see it.

    this is what an agnostic honestly admits that NO ONE CAN OR DOES know.

    if the question had been: is the CONCEPT of 'god' humanity's worst mistake, or better yet, the concept of ANYthing having to be infallable, then i would have to aggree it is certainly among them.

    but i really see no harm in being nice to little furry invisible spirit friends that live down by the creek or curl up on top of the covers when we go to sleep at night. that don't sit in judgement on us or any of that, that are just good friends to have, even if the're not alwise or all powerful or all anything else.

    =^^=
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  16. Shane99X

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    With 6 billion+ people, of course we will NOW. I'm not saying we could get rid of agriculture tomorrow, i'm just saying the whole thing has been a big oops.

    To be fair, domestication in general is probably the biggest oops, not just domestication of plants.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-primitivism

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-primitivism#The_domestication_of_life

    some good points...
     
  17. Benther Dondat

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    absolutely!

    “Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” Steven Weinberg

    Our language is based on conceptual paradigms. Conceptual paradigms are the lenses through which we perceive reality and the very foundation of our language is based on separation and denial.

    Monotheistic religions define hierarchal bureaucracy and our government is one. The idea that there is a separation between religion and government is a joke. Jews, Moslems, Christians…all from the same mold. Monotheism is NOT passive!

    The gardens, nature, music and dance each reflect interconnectedness and celebration. Mother Nature cuts through the blindness of our thoughts and speak directly to our intuition. But beware of the Satanic cults that confuse and demonize that which is wholly and makes it un-wholy… Holy!
     
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    Benther

    Agree. It exists to preserve it's own power, just as governments do.
    Organised religion is not about god. I cares not if god exists.
    In fact would be undermined by ANY manifestation of devine power.
    [that it could not control]
    It's about human bureaurcratic power.
    And that is all it has ever been.


    Occam
     
  19. Benther Dondat

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    God has power because WE think that God has power. Me think the King ain't got no clothes! (Although it's possible that you and I are the only one's that can see the obvious)!

    One's man's puddle is another man's pond!
     
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