Anyone being harassed, followed, or annoyed 24/7. Might just be Gang Stalking.

Discussion in 'Paranoid?' started by Gangstalking, Sep 30, 2006.

  1. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    hmm still persisting in making people victims, gerry?, or gangstalking, or whatever you call yourself
    Seriously you need help from people in the medical profession. I have heard they do amazing things to help people with paranoid delusions. I am concerned for your welfare and that you dont involve others in your, frankly, frightening ploy to make victims of them in the guise of being a helper. You are certainly not qualified to help anyone if you are suffering such delusions yourself.

    BTW I am convinced you are this gerryduffet person as your spelling is quite similar
    and that person says identical things to you which is too much a coincidence since
    either you are one-and-the same person or one of you is lying

    See, a rational person is able to investigate the truth and speak it, but an irational person cannot point to the truth of what they are saying and with any evidence that goes beyond the anecdotal or to their own self support of a supposed truth

    in short and to be blunt - you and this gerryduffet are clearly insane whether you are infact one-and the same person or not.


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  2. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

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    Hey, maybe I'm missing something here, (I must be, 'cause this ain't makin' any sense) but I don't get why everybody's got their panties so much all in a bunch. So some guy is REALLY PASSIONATE about what he believes in. Maybe some of his links he puts up are sketchy, maybe, in somebodys opinion anyway. But he truely believes what he says and there is definately some truth to it. So why does that bother other folks so much? Now, everybody's gettin' paranoid. So maybe this DID get put into the right catagory after all. But, ya know, how do ya draw the line between just bein' paranoid and a shitty reality?
    Here is what I know. There ARE loose and not so loose organizations that fuck with people to try to discredit them or to scare them into "submission". There have been mind control experiments goin' on in the govt.for many years. Brainwashing is common. The KKK was not just a conspiracy theory was it? The Mafia, maybe? The shadow government? The police State? No, there is REAL stuff goin' on. Real gangs, real bad folks, real bad agendas, some in high places of power. Why anybody would get SO defensive when being told these things leads me to wonder........
     
  3. Gangstalking

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    First you and others like you, were accusing people that were talking about gang stalking of being right wing extremist, then when that ploy so obviously failed, we are being called paranoid or delusional, and now I am support to be gerry duffy? The only thing that guy ever does is post the same letter all the time.

    He hardly ever has conversations, but when he does it's all about his poising with some company. Your accusations are false, and they are getting very pathtic.

    All I know is Cointelpro is happening in full swing again. Many of us that are being targeted are having these tactics used on us, and the links that I posted are all accurate. Also there is a movement to get Cointelpro investigations reopened, anyone who tries to proove other wise is the delusional one. Also anyone who tries to get you to think you are crazy, when you are being harassed, is an enabler for your harassment. They are the ones that should seek help for trying to make legit targets think that they need help.

    Also people like sentient should be shut down for trying to dignose people over the internet, when not only do they not ever have licenses, but they are usually not qualified to offer the opinions that they do.

    Now back to my point. Programs like weed and seed, City Watch in Toronto, Citizen corp, Citizens On Phone Patrol or a similar centralised program is being used to help harass targets. The people that are taking part in these programs often will try to make targets look like they are paranoid if they try to talk about this sort of harassment. It's part of how this opperation which was put into massive gear since 9/11 is being covered for.

    If you want to learn more about cointelpro read this link. http://www.aztlan.net/covert.html

    If you want to know more about the investigation that is going to be reopened used this link. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0609/S00610.htm

    The above is all info that people can find for themselves if they do a google search.

    Again we have many Cointelpro agents and others disinformation agents all across the internet and that is what you will run into when trying to get the word out about what is happening. They are doing it all over again, and if you feel like being decieved or lied to, then feel free to listen to what they are saying and how they are trying to manipulate you.

    However if you want the truth, go looking for it. Don't take my word, their word or anyone else's, just do your own research and you will hopefully clue into what is happening.
     
  4. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    earthmother, do you believe that "3rd way" fascists, who promote an ideology of psychological exploitation can act with integrity. This person Gangstalking is trying to say that you cannot link them to fascist organisations - just look through the thread and see click the links do your research before you go off on one!
    Its not just me thats opposed to these people - many many sane and rational people are afraid of this groups attempts to "rope in" vulnerable and possibly mentally unwell people into a supposed self help group. At the bottom of all their claims about this subject is the idea that Jews and Blacks along with misguided whites are marxists plotting together to stalk these people. When all the evidence suggests that their organisation is not self help but a course of perpetual victimhood where anyone who goes along with this delusional fantasy is made a victim by this supposed antigangstalking movement - dont take my word for it - go look at their delusional sites and the opposition to them.

    Thats all I have to say
     
  5. Gangstalking

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    Please do visit gangstalkingworld.com since that is my site and the only site that I an account for. I am pretty sure if this person could stop lying for a moment and spreading disinformation that rational people would see what the site is about.

    The sad part is that other than sentient and his or her warped little world, there are people who will believe that statement.

    I think I have been to just about every gang stalking site, and I am sure the sites say just the opposite and they mention that it is minorities, woman, dissidents, whistle-blowers and others that are getting stalked, and not the other way around.

    Anyways please do feel free to visit my website, since that is the only one that I can vouch for. Just like I would not expect sentient to vouch for every disinformation website on the internet, just the ones that he or she would be so obviously responsible for.
     
  6. salmon4me

    salmon4me Senior Member

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    IMO this thread is now in the right place.
     
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    ARE YOU BEING COVERTLY ATTACKED BY COINTELPRO?

    TO ALL: Whistleblowers, Alternative Media, Journalists, Peace Activists, Animal Activists, Environmentalists & Dissidents

    Re: Cynthia McKinney’s H.R.1026 to reopen investigation of COINTELPRO

    Before her departure, Rep. Cynthia McKinney introduced a resolution (H.R.1026) calling for a new investigation of COINTELPRO abuses. Although this Resolution was not brought to a vote, it is a matter of major importance to all of us who value not only our First Amendment rights -- but to immediately expose the growing violence being perpetrated silently against all Dissidents now.



    We are working with a retired attorney and a good number of other activists who will be asking that the McKinney resolution be introduced again and brought to a vote. For this purpose, we will be engaged in a major letter writing campaign. We need a letter from you stating your experience and/or knowledge of COINTELPRO activities today.
    (SAMPLE LETTER BELOW this Notice)

    A great many journalists and public figures are now experiencing COINTELPRO atrocities. This figure is growing every day. These atrocities consist of many forms of threats and heinous crimes perpetrated for the unlawful purpose of "neutralizing" dissidents to prevent them from opposing the nefarious agenda of corporations or corrupt government groups. COINTELPRO operations are presently being covertly perpetrated on most Whistleblowers, Alternative Media, Journalists, Peace Activists, Animal Activists, Environmentalists and other Dissidents in an effort to silence Truth.

    Commonly experienced COINTELPRO classic methods of repression include:
    ~ Invasive, covert, malicious and illegal 24/7 Surveillance of personal relationships, telephone calls, email, banking, finances, proprietary business clients, contracts and sources. Credit card theft.
    ~ Stalking, intimidation & threats (this is not done by independent criminal groups but by those who are federally subsidized by the U.S. government)
    ~ Death threats
    ~ Attempted murder; including but not limited to staged car accidents, heart attacks or strokes, poisoning, fixing of vehicle brakes, etc.
    ~ Invasive, covert, malicious and illegal entry of a Residence and/or Office where important documents, files or personal valuables are stolen or destroyed. Objects are usually moved or items like human excrement can be left to further add to the threat and brazen intimidation.
    ~ Calculated destruction of all private property, including but not limited to livestock, pets and vehicles.
    ~ Secret campaign to cause total financial demise
    ~ Local Police participation and cover-ups; assaults, harassment, threats & burglaries. This includes but is not limited to; entrapment and planting false evidence
    ~ Secret discrediting campaign within the community amongst neighbors, friends and relatives.
    ~ The interception, delay and sabotage of mail via US Postal Service
    ~ The opening and tampering of letters and packages via private courier (FedEx, UPS, DHL, etc)
    ~ Cooperation by local businesses; Time/Warner Cable vans are continuously used as fronts for surveillance and other nefarious activities. Other private organizations who stand to gain will participate – many businesses are fronts but are disguised as legitimate businesses
    Historically, COINTELPRO operations have been used for the purpose of political repression and are now being widely perpetrated to attack individuals in all areas of the alternative media including radio and TV hosts, investigative reporters, journalists, peace activists, animal activists, environmentalists, whistleblowers, etc.
    The last major congressional investigation of COINTELPRO operations was conducted in 1976-78 by the Church Committee and a sham cover-up investigation of the 1981-85 COINTELPRO war against CISPES was conducted by the Senate Intelligence Committee in 1989. In spite of a continuous flow of complaints to congress, there has been no congressional investigation of COINTELPRO crime and harassment since 1989. You can read the Church Committee reports at www.cointel.org. Horrifying as these reports were, they failed to produce any effective legislation. Nor did they produce any prosecutions of proven criminals within the Justice Department. All of them returned to their life of government crime. COINTELPRO operations have thus continued to the present day.

    As a guide, we are providing a SAMPLE LETTER below which includes an attorney’s real experiences to suggest a writing format. Your contribution can be a very short statement of your experiences or whatever length you choose, but it is very important that professionals, who are victims of COINTELPRO repression, submit your personal experience with COINTELPRO horrors. Please take a stand now to demand restoration of our full First Amendment rights. The longer we wait, the more dangerous will be our living conditions.

    The McKinney resolution was a major step forward in the struggle to regain constitutional rights that have, for all practical purposes, been taken from us as a result of 50 years of secret COINTELPRO wars against the First Amendment and against journalists and activists who sought to exercise their constitutional rights. With Cynthia McKinney and the media, we will have an opening to show the connection between COINTELPRO and the government’s present assault using silent but deadly, electromagnetic /DEW weapons as well.

    We will be sending these letters to Cynthia McKinney herself and all members of the House Judiciary and the House Intelligence Committee. We will provide names and email addresses later.

    This project is being carried out under the supervision of a retired attorney who has been a target of continuous COINTELPRO operations since 1954.
    The attorney is available as a confidential source of information.
    Please email: bobsdewtell@gmail.com, or bobagainstdew@aol.com.
    If you do not receive a reply, it means the email has been sabotaged. Keep trying.
    He will disclose full information about his background and experience with the understanding that identifying information is not to be published.

    SAMPLE LETTER Based on Real Experiences
    The Hon. John Doe
    House of Representatives
    Washington , DC
    Dear Rep. Doe:
    I am writing in support of Cynthia McKinney’s HR1026 and am demanding the immediate and uncompromised investigation of COINTELPRO operations today. These illegal forms of government agency pre-meditated assaults and crimes are running rampant today.
    And our personal experiences are proof that the barbarity of COINTELPRO lives on today in forms even more vile and destructive than what the Church committee uncovered and is now being perpetrated to silence any dissent. Note too, the COINTELPRO methods that we are documenting demonstrate capabilities that could only belong to an intelligence agency which is Federally funded and has obtained state-of-the-art weaponry.
    (SAMPLE) Here is a summary of our personal COINTELPRO experiences:

    Illegal Access to Our Mail: Interception of our most important letters coming and going; long delays in delivery; and tampering with the contents of our mail. We have written dozens of letters of complaint and made dozens of oral complaints about 14 years of mail interference. These postal crimes are committed with the consent of postal officials.

    Illegal Access to Shipments via UPS, Federal Express, etc., without leaving any evidence of opening the packages.

    Ability to enter our apartment and cars at any time. We continually see evidence of illegal entries to harass and threaten, not investigate. To let us know that someone has been in our apartment, things are moved from one place to another; cigarette butts and chewing gum are dropped on the floor; human excrement was once left in a waste paper basket. Items having great personal value to us and no value to anyone else are stolen. Evidence and documentation of harassment activities are stolen. We recently discovered the theft of approximately 40 VHS cassettes taping from C-SPAN of House and Senate Judiciary hearings relating to the FBI. Our medications have been openly tampered with and sometimes undetectably altered to produce very noticeable effects. Marcia was taking a medication just before going to bed. Sometimes she couldn’t sleep all night. Other times she slept so soundly that she had difficulty awaking on time to get to work and felt drowsy all day. The same thing was happening to her dog. Sometimes the dog stayed awake all night walking around the bedroom. Other nights the dog was so unconscious that Marcia could not awaken it, and it continued to sleep through the morning. I was sometimes drugged unconscious just after drinking from an open beverage in the refrigerator. Twice I was taken to the emergency room because of apparent poisoning. The FBI budget $23 million in 1993 for r&d to enable it "to defeat modern electronics-based locking systems and the largest multi-laser technologies." Now you know what they have been using the money for. Any lock that we can put on an apartment door is useless. Our tax dollars are used to pay for the development of state-of-the-art government burglary technology to be used in committing crimes against us.

    Ability to know things that we say or do within the "privacy of our home" by means of electronic surveillance devices. This has been proven to us by surveillance operations --possible only through a knowledge of what we say out loud in our apartment and an ability to find things of personal value which we have hidden in places that would normally take hours to find. They steal and are gone in an instant. We know that they have been there when we return and find something missing that was there minutes earlier. They could only do this by having surveillance equipment to tell them when we are away. They show us that they are able to watch us in every room at any hour of the day or night.

    Ability to keep our phones tapped and to hear our conversations on calls from pay phones. They have demonstrated this capability by arranging assaults requiring use of information that could only be obtained by hearing our phone calls. It makes no difference if we go to a pay phone. The FBI has the capability to tap pay phones instantly. No court order is needed for this or for any other illegal act. The FBI does whatever it has the technological capability to do. It has never been concerned about the illegality of its acts because there has never been anyone to investigate or prosecute its crimes. We get frequent threatening phone calls. Changing numbers doesn’t help. Having Pacific Bell put on a three week phone trap stops the harassing calls for those three weeks. As soon as the trap is taken off, the harassing calls resume. The harassers know when the trap is put on and taken off.

    Availability of unlimited numbers of people to threaten and intimidate us in various ways. For years they openly followed us. When we went to a deserted park area to have a picnic, one person after another came to settle at a point near us until they had us surrounded in a circle. No one else was in sight, but we were surrounded. Every time we went to a coffee shop, someone with a book would come to sit at a table within earshot, order coffee, and pretend to read. This routine was repeated continuously for months to make it appear that we were always under surveillance. If we went to a pay phone, someone would come to stand close enough to hear what we were saying. This was a blatant show of false surveillance purely for intimidation. We never saw the same person twice. They showed us that they had an unlimited number of people and funding available to keep repeating the same assaults.

    Local Police participation. Local police have traditionally done whatever the FBI has asked them to do. For years, we saw police cars always present wherever we went. When Marcia was living alone in West Hollywood, police cars followed her openly and obtrusively on the streets. She took some Polaroid photos of the cars and took a photo showing a police car license number to the police station to complain about police harassment. The next time that she went to the park where she often walked her dog, approximately 10 police cars showed up and parked just outside the park. Soon afterward, the Polaroid camera and the photos of police cars were stolen from Marcia’s apartment. West Hollywood police gave me a ticket for parking on a hill without my wheels curbed. I saw several other cars parked without their wheels curbed but with no tickets. I kept the ticket and later started to write a letter complaining about discriminatory ticketing as police harassment. I intended to enclose a copy of the ticket, but before I could finish the letter, the ticket was stolen from the apartment. When Marcia was living alone in the Wilshire area, four police officers awoke her in the middle of the night by pounding loudly on her apartment door. They claimed to be looking for someone at her apartment number but at a different street address which did not exist. One night when I was alone in my apartment, I went to the living room window to look out. Just as I got to the window, lights on a car outside were turned on with high beams pointed toward my window on the second floor. It was a police car. Police refused to investigate our reports of continuous burglaries.

    Ability to obtain cooperation by employees of private business organizations to cooperate or cover for their intimidation and threats. The FBI has unlimited funds to pay anyone to do anything – including illegal aliens. They can get self-serving businesses to cooperate.

    Ability to alienate friends and relatives through false accusations or false evidence used to create false negative beliefs about us. Friends and relatives suddenly broke off long relationships for no apparent reason or for reasons that made no sense. They even tried to destroy my relationship with Marcia by planting legal documents harmful to me with our signatures forged on them.
    Although we cannot prove responsibility of a specific federal agency or of specific government officials, we know that our experiences are typical of the COINTELPRO forms of crime and harassment which were originally developed and carried out by the FBI developed under J. Edgar Hoover and which this agency has been using for more than 50 years against millions of innocent citizens.
    Sincerely yours,
    (Your signature and email address)
    END OF SAMPLE LETTER

    Government repression and violence against journalists and activists will increase unless we support Cynthia McKinney and demand congressional investigation and remedies to bring it to a halt. NOW. We must take an immediate stand before we lose more and before it is too late to recover the losses.

    **Please PASS THIS ALONG and publicize this request for documentation and invite your colleagues and readership to join in supporting it with their personal statements.
    These statement are of great importance in expressing the serious need for congressional investigation of the COINTELPRO atrocities of today to expose the growing violence being perpetrated silently against all Dissidents.

    Thank you for contributing to this project of major importance to the personal future of all of us and to the future of our country. We look forward to hearing from you at this email address: mckinneycointelproexposed@yahoo.com
    Peace,
    L. Oliver
     
  8. Gangstalking

    Gangstalking Banned

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    Suit yourself. You can only deny the truth for so long.

    http://www.members.tripod.com/aebelle/id9.html

    Guess as long as woman, minorities and disidents are some of the primary targets, just like last time, it really won't be of any consequence to certain people. It's all good.
     
  9. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    I'm thinking the Conspiracy forum is better now. What do you think gangstalking?
     
  10. Gangstalking

    Gangstalking Banned

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    Hi Skip.

    I honestly don't care what you do. The sad part

    is this would almost be funny if it wasn't so sad.
    People are getting hurt, prosecuted, and the
    truth is just being pushed off as paranoia?

    Activist and dissidents are being targeted by the
    police, many having their pictures taken and then they

    are being stalked, only to have this forum that is

    suppose to be supporting them try to pass it off as a

    mind trip, no wait a paranoid mind trip. Or even worst

    a conspriacy.

    It's neither of the two. It's just plan old facts.
    There are lot's of articles about dissendent having

    pictures taken, or being finger printed and then

    winding up on lists that they don't even realise

    exist. This can happen months or years later.


    There are reports of police openly following people
    around for months, just because they were part of a

    demonstration, and yet this is all going to be passed

    off as a mind trip. On any other forum this would be

    funny, but here on a forum like this it's just sad.

    I honestly don't care what you do, but this is what I

    am going to do. I am going to keep speaking and posting

    the truth, because if there is enough truth, then it's

    impossible for others to pass off what you are saying

    as a lie, to discredit you, to try to pass you off as

    paranoid or insane. So I am going to preach the truth

    as best as I can, and I will also back it up with as

    many facts as I can. What you do with this thread is up

    to you, but on a forum like this, we are all on the

    same side, or we should be.


    These are the very people that are suppose to be your
    members who are going to be getting stalked, harassed

    followed, and persecuted, and instead of passing off

    what is going to be and is happening to them as a mind

    trip, or a conspiracy, you might try to help bring

    awareness to what is happening so they can know what to

    expect.


    This is all part of the same thing. All that is
    happening.


    Peace.
     
  11. Gangstalking

    Gangstalking Banned

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    http://www.refuseandresist.org/police_state/art.php?aid=1555


    http://www.geocities.com/windparade2003/howandwhy.html

    Aisha & Bankole


    Two activist that were a part of the movement from back
    in the day. They have been prosecuted for years, and a

    few years back they finally fled the presecution from

    the United States to Canada.


    http://www.members.tripod.com/aebelle/id9.html
    Anita Belle's Exile & Unjust Disbarment

    Later she would have be turned down by Canada.
    Know why many who flee to Canada might as well not

    bother to anymore?


    North American Union, or Security and Prosperity
    Partnership Of North America

    http://www.spp.gov/


    I think this video explains it best.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ne1_Hf0Yqo&mode=related&search=


    We now have plans for our army, the US, and Mexico to
    patrol the North American Border. The borders for all

    three countries. We are getting joined and not even

    warned about it. That's unbelieveable.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxCeWQ9Ge38
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCXc8j05Y3w

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5036nm5M1g&mode=related&search=


    See it all comes together. However I don't think it's a

    mind trip or a 'conspriacy. It's all part of the push,

    the push to globalisation.


    But globalisation. Since this thread is in the paranoid
    forum, I guess globalisation and Cointelpro are just

    that, paranoid mind trips, right?


    And I guess we are all just looking to make victims out
    of people right? People that are already fleeing for

    their lives and that are already being prosecuted.


    I guess at the end of the day, believe what you like,
    but it's here. Also you have disinformation agents like
    that are trying to throw people off the truth.
    They you are just as bad now, as you were back then
    when Cointelpro was done the first time around.
    Anyways that's my point of view about the whole thing.
     
  12. Gangstalking

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    http://mediafilter.org/cointel/


    COINTELPRO.2K MEETS THE WTO

    Report on
    Federal Anti-Activist Intelligence Network
    By Frank Morales


    Read the full artilce it's really eye opening.
     
  13. TresBizzare420

    TresBizzare420 Member

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    I belive only when the perps screw up big time will the public realize that gang stalking is real. It will take time, but eventually someone will come along and not know what he or she is doing. That will be the day people will be able to stop gangstalking. Until that day may come, targets have to stay strong. Strength alows an individual to maintain his or her life to a degree. In order to maintain the quality of one's life, one notices that any person who would be a perp is a very weak and unhappy person to begin with. One should always be more emotionaly stable then an individual who would be a perp.
     
  14. Gangstalking

    Gangstalking Banned

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    Actually. It might not take that long.

    I found this great article which I think explains how govenment, the homeless, informants, police and the average citizens can work together, patrol, stalk and harass other average citizens and have no one be the wiser. I think this could be a large part of the gang stalking mystery and I am happy to share it with you.
    http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/police/pdq-eng.PDF

    Here is the first paragrah of the article.

    The rest of the article is posted here on the new gang stalking world forum.

    http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1167825613/1#1
    For everyone who has been looking for some answers I think some might just have been found.

    Happy New Year. (Maybe New Year is just paranoia too?) :)
     
  15. salmon4me

    salmon4me Senior Member

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    So the FBI's investigation into possible terrorists is gang stalking huh? Whatever wing-nut.
     
  16. Gangstalking

    Gangstalking Banned

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    The FBI targeting innocent people like they did the BLP and the Black panthers and other groups is Cointelpro and yes the modern day version of this, could be called gang stalking. If you can't handle that, then you can't handle that.

    People are still in jail from Cointelpro and new people are on the run. We now have activists and dissidents being targeted, pictures taken, harassments happening, and a whole whack of other things.

    Now if you think people are getting gang stalked because the government thinks they are terrorists, then just look at Cointelpro and tell me who the terrorist were then?

    Gang Stalking is targeting innocent people, just like Cointelpro did. However people just like they did back then, can spread all the faulse info they want about innocent people and no one will be the wiser.
     
  17. The manticore

    The manticore Member

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    Columbos right man anyone who beleives thisis paranoid
     
  18. salmon4me

    salmon4me Senior Member

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    Treadge Member

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    Dude this is messed up, I hitchhike and they have been messing with me lately, saying mesed up stuff that they could not know unless they spied on me, its whack man, like they are trying to threaten my life, then they dont off me, I dont get it dude, I know its the freemasons and the fbi, its way messed up, they even hire bums to mess with me, this crap is real man, this forum blew my mind, its exactly whats been happening to me,
     
  20. Treadge

    Treadge Member

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    damn straight im paranoid, if you experienced what I haveout on the road, youd be in a hole in the wall right now sucking your thumb, me, I dont give a crap, it used to scare me the first few times, but now they just piss me off,
     

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