Had routine circumcision been in place-48% reduction in STD's

Discussion in 'Men's Issues' started by Haid, Nov 7, 2006.

  1. skittlechick

    skittlechick Banned

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    The U.S institues of health is not always right. If you can't think for yourself thats fine but don't try to blindly argue.
     
  2. jonny2mad

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    Could someone please show me where any american medical association advocates routine circumcision of infants when I looked into this before I found that none of them did .
     
  3. Cutted

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    Jonny - watch what happens in the coming months - the American medical societies cannot ignore the National Institutes of Health study.
     
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    Regarding removal of your child's body part - what about the naval - some of us have "innie"s and others have "outies" after the cord is cut off at birth - did some of us get shortchanged? We all have had blood drawn from our bodies, and our hair cut, and our fingernails, etc. We are giving up body parts all the time.

    Did you hear what we do in the US with foreskins? They are sewn together and made into wallets. When you rub the wallet it becomes a suitcase.
     
  5. jonny2mad

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    what happens to the foreskins is they are sold to genetic engineering companys its a multi million dollar business
    http://www.sexuallymutilatedchild.org/f4sale.htm

    and the hair nails and blood regrow, the umbilical cord has to be cut and its not got any function as far as I know, the foreskin does have a function
     
  6. MikeE

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    Good joke. It reminds me about what Rommel would have allegedly sold a blind man to use as a wedding ring.

    1) Innie and outie are geneticaly determined. Not by where the cord is cut.

    2) If you add "Don't be stupid" to my principle of "don't take others body parts away" I think you'll understand my position.

    What's the hurry with circumsision? Can't it wait until the boy at least knows the difference between boys and girls.
     
  7. Cutted

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    The procirc and nocirc crowds are talking past each other. Procirc people cite studies and rational reasons why it is advisable for many people, and the no circ people use emotional arguments centered around "mutilation" and other buzz words, and making fun of their adversaries. Neither side will convince the other, until either circumcising or leaving it uncut is declared illegal.
     
  8. PEED NORTH TUSK

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    The problem in this data is it is not a causal relationship.
    What are the social factors, what are the cultural or environmental factors.

    This strikes me as a reason to have more surgeons make money on unwilling, un consenting patients.
     
  9. sentient

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    what an absolute undiluted bowl of donkey crap this is. VIRAL INFECTION is different from bacterial infection. Bacteria will enter the body via a host of different means to viral infection. The foreskin is there to protect against BACTERIAL infection - there is nothing that will stop a viral infection. A foreskin could not protect against HIV since the mechanism that HIV uses to enter the body would be the same foreskin or not. A bacterial infection may be stopped by having a foreskin but not a viral infection. Without a foreskin the penis is available to both types of infection
     
  10. Maggie Sugar

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    You don't NEED your umbellical cord, even animals bite this off. It is an organ, which only serves a purpose in the womb, so even if you didn't cut if off, it would fall off after a few weeks. Blood is taken either to make sure you are healthy or to donate to people who need it. Some people rarely need to have blood taken.Most of my children have only had blood taken one or so times in their lives. Also, blood regenerates in a matter of just a couple of days. You are not permanently scarred by a blood drawing. Hair and finger nails have NO feeling (totally different with foreskins) and they also regenerate. This really isn't a good argument.

    However, removing stomach because "if you get stomach cancer, you will most likely die" is a good analogy. You need your stomach.
     
  11. Cutted

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    Say whaaa?
     
  12. Haid

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    I don't think you can compare a stomach to a foreskin either. Maybe an appendix.
     
  13. Cutted

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    Appendix, tonsils, foreskins - unneeded body parts....
     
  14. jonny2mad

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    well you can still live without legs and arms so I suppose you can class them as unneeded , the foreskin is there for a purpose as has been explained to you
     
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    People can debate which parts are "needed." Wish I had had the option to make that choice on my own body. I oppose all violence, but am tempted to make an exception if I ever meet the circumcision doctor in a dark alley.
     
  16. Cutted

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    My circumcision doctor stitched together all the foreskins he cut off to make a purse. If you massage the purse, it becomes a suitcase.
     
  17. MikeE

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    That was the thinking in my youth, but I hear that the tonsils have a role in preventing respratory infections, which is why tosilitis is now treated with anti-biotics rather than tosilectomy (damn, no ice cream). I suspect that those other "unneeded" parts have functions that we don't yet know.
    Leaving them in place seems the prudent thing to do.
     
  18. jonny2mad

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    Generally they sell the foreskins to bio-tech companys its a multi million business
    and we have just had one poster who has had a childhood circumcision and would have liked to have made his own choice , so why not leave it till the person can make their own choices
     
  19. Cutted

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    Stem cell research is a good thing. I might even give up a little more of my remaining foreskin to promote it.
     
  20. woodstock193

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    ok u guyz, for those that say... the virus might get trapped under the penis... u do realize we CAN pull our foreskin back and wash it... now, theyre maybe some slighter risk of someone getting an STD, but thats why u wrap you wacker before you attack her. in conclusion, they are basically equal, ok? ok
     

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