Ladies against feminism

One more thing that I forgot, women want to be protected by their men. Not cause they are physically lame or anything, but just to be sheltered. Why do you think that in all movies, t.v. shows and books, there's always romance in it. How a woman falls head over heels for a guy. Why is it alway this way? What do they think about their first hug, first kiss, first time they sleep with a guy?! Because in this figurative sense they want to LOVED! But people like you think that women should trap men and use their prowess to become as equal as men. Yeah, a woman can be as equally strong as a guy, but not really. She will really have to use a lot of vitamins, protein powders, exercise excessively.... not to mention steroids. Tell me about women who arent attracted to guys. Pfft, well they are usually attracted to other women, they think that a women will be the equal for her soul mate. What exactly is a soul mate? Someone who will understand another. And why would a person want to be understanded? Because they want to feel secure. There you go. Women want someone who will be there for them. Yeah... I bet that you people have gone out with lots of people and slept with them, and gotten your hearts broken. And what was this thing about feminsm? Hmmm... If you were trully feminist, you would never admit that you got really hurt. Or you would, and would want revenge, on men. And men are being degraded, because they just working machines who drool after women. Why? Because that's how they are being raised by their mothers. You might say, and their fathers? Oh they wouldn't have anything to do with it, because those men where raised by their mothers. Mother's can control what their children think. And if its not the mothers who control that, its the state. But that's another topic.

Yeah my ideas a really radical. And I am really ( how you would say it in your language) pissed off at what you all think.

Peace and good....

 

I've always said that I am against feminism, simply because, for the most part, it's not what it claims to be. Feminism is supposed to be the right of every woman to do as they see fit, whether that's becoming a "career woman" or staying at home and taking care of your husband and kids, or both. But most "feminists" that I have come in contact with are all about "make your huband stay at home, reject traditional roles, yadda yadda yadda" But isn't feminism supposed to protect and support the right of a woman to be a traditional "housewife" if that it what she wants for her life? I mean, if you want to reject "traditional" roles, then cool. But if you don't want to, and you prefer to be a SAHM, how are you any less a feminist? I don't know, maybe I've been misinformed as to what feminism is. If I'm wrong, please let me know, but as it stands, I see the women on that site as total feminists.

 

I've come across some articles of late, written by "feminists", typical feminists. These women say that to be at home raising children and not being part of the workforce is wrong. We have an "obligation" to be out there. http://www.alternet.org/stories/41176/#comments

Over the past few months, my opinion has evolved. I feel like my teen years were spent being shaped by a group telling me that the most important thing was going to college, getting a career, being a big shot, competing with men. And now that I've decided to put my college career on hold to raise a daughter, to devote myself to her, I've become less than worthy of their idea of "feminism". I'm a breeder. I've spit in the faces of my fore-mothers or something like that.

In reality, I think that women need to be advocated for, on equal ground as for males, different ethnicities, and the disabled. I don't think it's right for these groups to be competing over who needs the most advocacy and tearing down their own people that "sell out" (ie, just don't believe the same as them).

I'm worthy of so much more than being belittled because I don't want to be a corporate big-wig.

 

Just a thought for those who think that the feminists of today are too radical and outrageous:

That is EXACTLY what was thought of the women 80 year ago who wanted to vote.

 

I am a "real" woman (all forty-two years and one hudred and sixty five pounds of real woman) - I have no desire to "rival" men - though I DO insist to be paid the exact same wage for an exact same job - that just makes common sense.

What does godly woman" mean? I'm pagan - so I'm a godly - goddessly woman - would that make me MORE of a "real woman", I wonder?

Juuuuuuuuuuuuuuust thinking.
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As for the rest of the topic - I wonder if some people don't just have trouble with the word "feminist" - like I used to. Feminist - it has an IST @ the end, and in some ways a word which has an IST @ the end gives us the shivers. RacIST. White supremIST. That kind of thing.

In my way of thinking (until this past year) I swore up and down that I wasn't a feminist because - you know - I'm an EQUALIST - I believe in equality.

I still AM an equalist - we ought to all get paid what we're worth (which would send some people to TEARS if that happened - I'm thinking specifically of certain high ranking officials) but I also have decided to include the word "feminist" in my description of self because, well, my view is larger than it used to be.

My Gran (who died a few years ago @ a ripe old age) fought her ass off to get the right to drive legally, vote, divorce for any reason under the sun - because of HER I get to write-in whoever I want for the green party (which is sadly lacking in my state).

Thanks Gran!

Gran was a feminist - she was a card-carrying BALL BUSTING feminist - I know for a fact some men called her "man hating" - and I also know some men called her "strong and tough" - they loved her.

I REALLY do think that ANYBODY (regardless of gender) who stands up and speaks against the fat, lazy, lethargic status quo is going to be labeled unpretty names.

Years ago I took the words BITCH and WITCH and claimed them proudly - this past year I did the same with FEMINIST.



As for the website - that is absolutely nothing I'm interested in, but clearly some women are. I live in an area where the majority of women probably subscribe to this website's newletter and to them I say "hooray for you - do whatever tweaks your twinkee".

The only warning I would offer against a woman giving up her rights and responsiblities toward being leader of her own self is - it often breeds chronic infantilism. Many of the women I know who are anti-feminist, pro-"men as head of household", are ALSO less likely to know how to change their own tires, balance their own bank statements, and build their own sets of stairs - to take them where they wish to go.

Not ALL anti-feminist women I know are like this, but easily eight and a half out of ten are. They are "helpless" by choice - waiting for the men in their lives to take charge of "certain household duties". This CAN be dangerous, ladies who are against feminism and FOR "traditional roles", because if you ever end up divorced and stranded along the side of the road with a flat tire - who are you gonna call?

I'm all for men and women being exactly who they want - I also think it makes damn good sense to grow up well-rounded (anti-feminist women know how to fix a leaky pipe - anti-feminist men know how to whip up a tasty souffle).

After all that - I myself can't cook my way out of a paper sack OR figure out how to program the remote - so - there's room for improvemeent in all our lives.



Whoever you are, whatever stands you take - always remember there are @ least two sides to everything - then there's the vast majority in the middle - whre most of life takes place.

Enjoy!

 

am_a_girl, I'm gonna have to disagree with you. I was raised with the same values you preach, godly women that want to be taken care of, women ruling the world, yada yada yada. I grew out of it. My mother and church taught me that any woman worth her stars got a college education, and a career, then got married to a godly man and became a homemaker.

I always saw that as putting unnecessary strain on the males. under this regime, a man is expected to support at least two people on one income, while all a woman has to do is cook, clean, and spread her legs. I respected men too much to do that to them. It's unfair to require all this from them. Nevertheless, this is what a godly woman was meant to be, never mind the discrimination against men in this anti-feminist view. This is what a godly man is meant to do, poor schmuck.

I though that women in this lifestyle were taking advantage of their men. Support me, worship me, buy me things, and I'll spread your DNA. But if I didn't do this, I was going to hell. I got me a good, normal man, who I loved, a suitable leader for my future family.

Then I grew up.

I moved to another state to be with him. This is what women do for our men. I went back to college, we weren't married after two and a half years and I wanted to be worth something in this time. He complained that I didn't spent three hours a day on makeup for him, that I didn't wear uncomfortable clothes for him, that I disagreed with him on a few issues. None of these things were something that I could help. For six months, he pretended that I didn't exist, then left me. Within a month, he's now engaged to a lovely girl who is openly marrying him for his money, that he didn't have when we got together.

I've seen this happen to several women who bought into that "Godly Woman" bit. I've left the Christian church, following the ways of nature now. I believe that if a woman wants to be a homemaker, bully for her. Kids need someone at home. If I ever breed, I plan to do the same, but women need to be able to support themselves first. Men today are unreliable.

Also, if a woman doesn't want a family, she should have that right. It doesn't threaten you, let it go.