what are people's views on 'made-up' words in poetry?

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  1. SelfControl

    SelfControl Boned.

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    There are good examples and bad. Basically, making up words is cool as long as they actually describe what they mean better than an existing word. But far too many people make up words because of a lack of vocabulary, and then try to rationalise it intellectually later. That's not a good thing, in my view.
     
  2. sentient

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    what about people who dont rationalise it later and just say "soddit - take it or leave it"
     
  3. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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  4. White Scorpion

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    Practically every word the Goonies spoke (Spike Milligan, Peter Sellers and Harry Krishna) was made up. A typical radio show would go something along the line of this:

    "Tiddley-po... Tiddle-tiddle-tiddle-tiddle-tiddle tiddley pooooooooo! Tidlley poooo (stick a bit of vibrato in the final po).

    And even though no one understood a single word, yet the whole country was in tears with laughter, a young woman wet her kacks outside a Woolworths and a brewer's horse had a stroke on the outskirts of Chelmsford.
     
  5. Keramptha

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    more the merrier, artistic lisence...shakespeare...evoloution...creativity... why not?...everyone speaks their own language....we just interpret things we hear/read...go for it!
     
  6. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    Good old Milligan and Co. I have the Goons scirpts, they're still funny. Puckoon was wicked too.

    As for made up words, I'm all for it providing they try to carry a meaning with it. Coining new words is what helps to make the language grow.
     
  7. White Scorpion

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    Can anyone think, or invent, a word for a rather expensive brie that I've bought to go with my collection of cabernets from around the world? Although it tastes divine (the fromage), the smell is cabbagey and offensive to the refined nostril. I mean, if you live in Athens then you probably won't notice the difference, but having been raised in a Hampshire boarding school where the atmosphere consisted of natural components and perhaps the odd bovine excrement or two, I found the scene both exotic, and at the same time intimidating, and rather disquietening, albeit tempting and succumbing.

    A bit like a Lebanese brothel to be more specific, or the England cricket team trying to win the Ashes from down below.

    So can anyone make up a word to describe all that? Preferably something with a lot of F's and Butt's in it. I can't promise a prize, but there's a trillion to one chance your word might eventually make it into a dictionary.
     
  8. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    good god ! a 21 year old with a copy of the goons scripts - you surprise me !!
    maybe theres hope after all. I cant say I was a great fan of the goons, however I recognise genius when I see it. -
    there were a few things the goons said that were funny and sometimes they completely got away with things such as the following:
    where one of them is acting the part of a tv or radio anouncer and he says

    "Ladies and gentlemen, last week they appeared on the show as the double act, Novak and Good. Well tonight theyre back and they joined by John Steel - and they are Steel, Novak, and Good"
    get it ?
    (still no fackin good )

    yeah they were clever and I'm glad people still take an interest in them - well done "fountains of nay"
     
  9. Mary Poppins

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    Made up words generally grate the bloody tits off me. I'm very narrow minded about these things!
     
  10. 8eyedspy

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    If an author conjures up a new word and places it in the proper context to give it the right meaning and comprehension then the reader will understand it and the writer has done his job. The same applies for slang. Personally, I have to make sure the reader can understand or at least figure out what I mean, otherwise all is lost, and I don't mean just the reader. If the idea is purely elemental where the emphasis is on rhythm and meter and tonality then that's another matter. Jabberwocky is a prime example. Purposefully confusing a reader, that's an excercise in futility.

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  11. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    sorry for this sprangiferous post it notsoneedingly be here
     
  12. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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  13. 8eyedspy

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    personally I prefer slingshot overkill as a means to an end.
    Where you find pleasure, you eventually find pain.
     
  14. White Scorpion

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    St. Francis of Assissi.
     
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