oysters and clams

Roffa · Dec 21, 2006

Well, I voted Nope but then I could never eat slimy things out of the sea even when I was a flesh-eater. Ugh.

mystik_lilac · Dec 21, 2006

Didnt eat them even before I became vegetarian. They're icky.

verseau_miracle · Dec 22, 2006

drumminmama said:

look, if they want the label, they have to be true to it.
every tuna salad eating "vegetarian" makes it difficult for restaurants/ family members/ coworkers/etc to understand why Sally would eat fish as a "vegetarian" but Harry won't. THey won't think Sally was off, but that Harry is difficult.

these are not MY definitions, (except in the boiling down of others')
I don't care what inter vegan debates go on. I'm aware, but I don't care.
but I ask you this: what would most vegans say to "I'm a vegan who eats eggs"?

You seem to be accusing me of being an all or nothing veg. I think you'd best read some posts. I advocate eating low on the chain, encouraging others to start to do so, and make conscious decisions if one is omni. I advocate local and organic foods, including flesh (I'm just not eating it). I support sustenance hunting, for others.
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Well, your original post simply didnt make you look that way...

If you think about it...because this poster was asking all he others out there if they ate these things. She explained her personal reasons for eating them and the way she saw things. She did NOT say "i am a vegetarian but i..." or "im vegan but i..." oh no, she just explained her PERSONAL dietary taste...

Now my point was i think we all REALISE what the definition of a veg or vegan is...but surely this forum is for ANYONE who has decided to make a positive change in the direction of vegetarianism?...In which case, why was your post giving definitions necessary?

I never meant you personally were an all or nothing veg. I just dont like to see ANYONE debating such small things when at the moment what matters is the big picture

Youre right, these labels are fixed things. But then she never said she was "vegetarian"...

sweetdreadlover · Dec 22, 2006

barter mama said:

I ate fish for the first few months after I stopped eating other meat. But technically if you eat any animals, you're not really a vegetarian. Flesh is flesh, whether it comes from a land animal or an aquatic one. Everyone has to decide where they draw the line for themselves, labels aside...
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yeah me too but my mother guilted me into that one...not my own doing TRUST me...but then i grew a backbone and gave it up.

Rainbow Starlite · Dec 25, 2006

Heck no...

Aidan · Dec 30, 2006

I started another thread on a similar topic and someone added a link to this one on the same topic (thanks drumminmama) which has some interesting points made, however, the discussion here seems to all be centred on labels - which is all very interested and valid discussion of course.

However, I was more interested in hearing other people's own personal opinions on the ethics of eating a creature without a brain. I realise that this is a personal decision that i have to make for myself, but I'm still interested in hearing other people's opinions. So what are your ideas?

drumminmama · Dec 30, 2006

no, mollusks have an anus and a heart, and in some cases a foot.
they are independently alive and mobile entities. So, they are critters to me (that and they are so much mucousal slime pickled in urine).

to this end, I would also not possess pearls.

sweetdreadlover · Dec 30, 2006

my birthstone is pearl..i hate them and tell people to never buy them for me. i go with my alternative birthstone which is alexandrite

drumminmama · Jan 17, 2007

found this:
http://www.vegetarian.org.uk/factsheetshidennasties.html

oysters - oysters are shellfish which live on sea beds. They are now increasingly intensively farmed. There are two types of oyster farming: suspension culture farming - in which oysters are grown off the sea bottom in floating trays (this method is labour intensive) and bottom culture farming, in which an area of the sea floor, that provides natural food and environment for the oysters, is selected. Oysters are then stocked in the selected area and left to grow and then harvested using a bottom drag from boats. Intensive farming of oysters means that these animals are kept in crowded and unnatural conditions. Fresh oysters are bought alive and often eaten living, although some people choose to cook the living creatures. To open live oyster shells a knife is used to cut internal muscles – this is extremely painful and distressing for the oyster. Depending on the oyster breed they will live for a few days to two weeks out of water. The French squeeze lemon on the opened oyster to assure themselves that it is still alive by watching the muscular reaction to the acidic lemon. For humans there is a high risk of food poisoning through eating raw/live oysters. As oysters live in the sea they also contain harmful toxins such as dioxins and PCB’s.

Zimmy · Jan 18, 2007

I won't eat them, no, they're living creatures, and I wouldn't like to be the one to buy butchered corpses of them,

I_got_life · Jan 28, 2007

nop-e, and not only because it's a living creature.it tasted terrible when I ate some of those and I vomited them.

TheRealPamela · Mar 29, 2007

this question (original question) doesn't belong in the vegetarian forum because vegetarians do not eat animals.

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