The most irresponsible people on the planet today are parents!

The great paradox! The salvation of civilization rests in the hands of our youth and the most irresponsible people on the planet today are their parents...parents that never seriously lift a hand to help resolve overpopulation or the suffering of the children that are already here...parents that figure the best way to save the planet is to produce more kids that will join the rest of us to consume what is left of this wondrous planet...parents that spend their life punching the time clock, paying the mortgage, putting food on the table and teaching their kids to compete with the Jones...and worst of all parents that send their kids to schools without gardens!

 

Parents are the key. But because they spend their life punching time clocks isn't the greatest fault. What is, is that when they do have free time, they don't spend that time with their children talking with them as though they are worthy of communication. There's a disconnect. If it was worthwhile to have a child then it's more than necessary to share your life experience with them. That's more important than buying them an XBox. It's something they will always remember.

 

where do we draw the line between irresponsible and abusive?

 

i think one of the worst thing of parents today isnt the time clock or mortgages, its the babying they do. ive seen parents give theyre kids money, their kid who has been to jail 6 times, had 4 felonies, 3 car wrecks, ran away from 5 military schools, and the kid is still living off them!! they still give their kid gas money, a car, everything he needs to keep dealing drugs and getting in trouble. Whatever happened to tough love? dont provide they kid with anything, its not just your job to provide them with comfort, as a parent, you also have to plant seeds and make points in your children, otehrwise they will never learn. Give your 18 year old son the caboot, and hell come crawling back, seeing how tough the real world is.

 

Think about it. These parents have no connection to the garden nor do they have an interest in teaching their kids about the garden. The parents piss in the river, their kids piss in the river. The parents are competative consumers and so on and so on!

The only way to stop the vicious circle is to teach the kids about the garden.

*The nature in human nature is Mother Nature and and the mother of nature is the garden.*

Any gardeners out there?

 

Every spring, my three children and I plant flowers together, they absolutely love getting their hands in the soil, planting, watching the work that they did grow. Then, they help with the watering everyday of the plants. I have to designate a day for each of them and alternate because they all want to give their plants a drink, they love being a part of it!

 

In some respects, i have to agree with you. Yes, people are having lots of kids, and are starting to have them at a young age. Yes, there are many homeless or hungry children already on this planet. My boyfriend and I will therefore adopt if ever we feel the desire to raise a child. People, generally, ARE having kids without fully thinking it through. Just as theyre breeding new dogs, cats and other creatures while millions starve and die in neglect (you find the comparison degrading? Its the same principal, only worse in humans, as each new human life is consumption on a huge scale)

HOWEVER, i also realise that not all children are planned, and not all people agree with abortionn, and so you cant really blame people so much here (unless it was a contraception issue)

I also realise that there are many FANSTASTIC parents out there, whose children are actually doing GOOD for this planet. They are a positive influence and therefore a plus. Because they arr taugh well, taught to respect the world...and so instead of being just more consumption they are souls with ideas to share, inventions, Love to spread...

Also, children, as you have said, are our future. With newgenerations come new ideas. And so while i agree that people are way too hasty becoming parents all over the place you have to remember these plus points too

 

Mtv is the worst parent ever.
How sad.

 

A fine question BD.....which most don't seem to have much clarity on.
I just posted "StudentsAgainstDisrepect" thread......and then saw this...so I'm pretty sure you all are suppose to help create this new website that we just registered about 10 hours ago.
My son suggested that I give you examples......
Just in school alone... Think of all the ways you have been, or heard people, being talked down to. Or how you've been touched??? Or how your parent didnt really believe you.........wow! you know what im talkin about. Or maybe how your friends disrespect each other or your brothers and sisters.

Respect..... Students.... Hell were all students

Please help. Thanks

 

I'm diggin Benther's soil

Oleflowerman is a true gardener.
Please please keep checking on the new wwwstudentsagainstdisrespect.org site that is being constucted as i post this.
Every person who posted on this thread is a valuable solution. When we organize valuable solutions we have the capacity to create paradigm shifts.
Other suffering people need to hear you and SAD is going to be created by persons just like us.
Help this OK.
I have 6 children. 3 boys and 3 girls. My oldest son is josh. He's 28 married and has created my grandfather role...twice now. LOL Nick is 26 and lives with a beautiful woman and they are having their first babe this week prolly. The youngest four are living with me. Whitney is the eldest
daughter @ 21. She just got out of 2 mind-numbing years in the US Navy.
Ryan is 19 and currently on probation and in a drug court program. Taylor is the 17 1/2 yr old and incredibly aware of the corruption that surrounds us....especially in her large public highschool.....and the babe Sarah is all most sixteen and a freshman @ the same high school as Taylor. She's the observer.

Well because of all the bullshit I overlooked out of functioning from the collective dysfunction I have become ashamed of my past parenting style when it comes to dealing with public school issues.

Two of my daughters have been sexually harassed and at least 2 have had teachers who drank alcohol in the classroom.

I am guilty of doing the normal and apathetic thing.....making excuses or minimizing the situation when it was brought to my attention.

Well my soon to be cool and responsive nerw friends....those days are over and I'm starting @ the highschool with the principal and vice-prin who have recently dis-respected my senior daughter Taylor. She told me what has happened and everything focused into place in my frontal lobe and the heart of my soul.

If I start right where I am and rage against the collective dis-respect.....I can make some things better.

I've apologized to all six of my beautiful children for disrespecting them in all the ways that an un-conscious parent does and believe me ...alot us parents are very fucked up and we still don't want to admit it.

SAD www.studentsagainstdisrespect.org is at this hour still waiting on name confirmation so please track this and do get involved.

Great thread bro. Thanks and remember......

"A person ought to carry themselves in the world as an orange tree would if it could walk up and down in the garden, swinging perfume from every little censer it holds up to the airî

 

Thanks OleFlowerMan.

I believe that most Amerikan parents are asleep at the wheel with their eyes wide open and are intoxicated with the mind numbing drone of TV, competition, capitalism, consumerism...

I too apologize to my kids (often) for my immature and irresponsible parenting. I try to show them that every important lesson can be learned (and taught) in or wondrous garden we call earth. I show them that good thoughts, good intentions, right livelihood, hard work and a reverence for nature and community truly reflects human nature and I encourage them NOT to contribute to an already overpopulated planet. I suggest that they adopt a child that otherwise has no chance if they do want to raise a kid.

Most kids trust and love their parents. Our human nature and our natural intuition are to trust and love. Harmonic resonance goes to the very core of our being.

My one critique of you post is your rage. Rage + rage = rage! I too feel anger and rage but I am convinced that it must be transformed and re-channeled as peace and love. Remember… to teach peace and love YOU must be it. Remember that those that you want to transform are your brothers and sisters.

The nature in human nature is Mother Nature and the mother of nature is the garden.

 

Mmm Hmmm.......yeah man.....Anger and rage make the veil thicker.... not more transparent....i'm reminded daily that we are looking for human beings that are trying to evolve and flower into the perfection and beauty that they already are. I was sowing some seeds the other into my 15 yr old.....I was sharing with her that at dusk and at dawn the veil that separates what we can see from all that we don't is thinnest. I love being in the garden then the most.
We have a burning desire to bring people to the garden....give them part of our small patches...if they're serious and then help them learn how the Universe functions for themselves.

"How much truth can a spirit bare...how much truth can a spirit dare...that became for me more and more the real measure of value" ...i'm with Nietzsche on that as I can tell you are too.

Peace&Love