a couple questions.

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by i<3gong, Jan 19, 2007.

  1. i<3gong

    i<3gong Member

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    first post whats up.

    i'm not really new at this but i don't know everything there is to know, anyway i'm about to buy a RooR with an ashcatcher a couple different bowls diffuser all the good stuff. i was looking at everyonedoesit.com and wanted to know if they are reliable. and if not, an alternative website.

    in my area everyone is against using a zippo lighter, for multiple reasons, just wondering what that was all about and if it was true.

    and to clear up some of my confusion.. shake is the stuff left at the bottom of the bag, i think. i am assuming hash is pot from a grinder? and keif, or kief is the crystals?

    i had some more but yea i'm a little forgetfull sometimes.

    sorry for the dumb questions, thanks and peace
     
  2. WeeDMaN

    WeeDMaN a pothead

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    I hear RooRs are a nice set of bongs, the only company bongs I ever tried where Zong's, they kick ass too, the reason people wont use zippo lighters is the taste, smoking bowls or joints with zippos makes the taste of zippo fluid take on with the taste of weed, which is really nasty :(, yes Keif is the crystial from a grinder, its goood too cuz thats what they make hash from, THC crystals. Shake can be used in 2 terms, it can be cut up weeed or weed that feell off the bud thats on the bottm of the bag, or it can be collected stem and leaf with tricomes on it from female marijuana plants as they are harvested, the reason growers keep this shake is because they can cook with it, make hash, hash oil, honey oil etc; Oooh and hash isnt pot from a grinder, its concentrated THC resin glands, or keif as we might call it, what they do is they find ways to seperate keif from the plant , either with thier hands, pressing the hash together will cause it to compress and the heat from your hands will help it stick together, or they find other ways to extract the keif and use thier overs or w/e they can to heat/press the kief together into a solid chunk, They also m ake bubblehash, which is keif extracted with Ice Water, usually using bubblebags(google em). Hash oil/honey oil is a form of hash, concentrated into an oil which is ussually made with an Isoprepanol or butane extraction. There was some stuff called "budder" in vancouver a while back, which they claim was made with a secret recipe.....it is supposed to be up to 99.7% THC but I read that it was only ISO extracted oil that was "washed" and the rest of the chemicles where takin out by heating it.
     
  3. mynameisjake07

    mynameisjake07 Banned

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    hehe no hash isnt pot from a grinder....


    hash is bascially weed that has been compressed into a small block that you can smoke. ... not from a grinder
     
  4. VaporDude

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    Bubblehash is the shit! It's so much better than any of the hash I have ever found on the street. I could never smoke it every day though, it completely burns me out for like 4 hours after. Oh yeah the website you listed is in the UK. Not sure where you live, but the RooR site is in Germany or something too. Try to find one at a good headshop.
     
  5. theshaman

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    I bought a bong and a box from everyonedoesit. Everything came through for me. The box didn't come with the bong, but I emailed them and they sent one with no problems. I'd recommend them.
     
  6. thedude21

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    Ive used everyonedoesit before too, good company, i would order from them any time.
     
  7. 40oz and chronic

    40oz and chronic 'Nuff Said

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    first id like to say welcome to HipForums, you chose a good forum(thumbs up)


    second. Everyonedoesit.com is a well respected site and iv heard nothing bad of them. so yes id say that site is dependable.

    and yes shake is the crumbs on the bottom of the bag. no hash is not what is left after grinding, that would be...grinded weed ready for a joint/blunt.....anyway.....yes, kief is the collected crystals.
     
  8. i<3gong

    i<3gong Member

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    yea so i went to utopia, the head shop in my area. i had around 225 on me and went in hopes of leaving with a roor. well the owner didn't have any roors this week, or any decent all glass bongs i liked. so i ended up buying me and my girlfriend this $90 peice that looks like a monkey. baked up thrww times before we got it home. the monkeys mouth is the carb hole, so you can cover the bowl with your thumb and blow shotties through its mouth..

    but yea its fucking awsome i'll post some picks up later... sorry for rambling. haha peace.
     
  9. 40oz and chronic

    40oz and chronic 'Nuff Said

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    sounds nice man. i can never keep a glass piece for more than a couple months
     
  10. digitalldj

    digitalldj Canucks ftw!

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    i can honestly say i was one of the very first people in vancouver to try it, it was ok nothing special really, it was just cool being served hot knife hits in a store
     
  11. nesta

    nesta Banned

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    notice even these dedicated stoners have differing answers......

    basically, from what i can tell, terminology regarding cannabis is EXTREMELY variable from location to location due to much of it being slang. that is why when discussing such matters online i try to -generally- be more specific when its good to be so, but i still use my slang here and there (especially distinguishing between grades of commercially available marijuana buds....i tend to think in terms of shwag, middies, beasters, and nugs....others use other words or may use similar words for different things)

    shake is a slang word describing, as you said, the loose crumbs of marijuana found in the bottom of a bag. more shake builds up with really dry pot than with fresher stuff. it can fall off the bud on its own or be created accidentally when you break up a bud by hand. since it is not it's own specific part of the plant, and can be created more than one way, cannabis sent through a grinder could still probably be considered shake. it dries out faster and loses potency more easily, so its not a great idea to grind it all at once if you plan on keeping it for a while. on the other hand some dealers accumulate large quantities of shake that they don't care to smoke themselves (most keep their best gear for themselves) but have trouble selling to others. people tend to get irritated if they're sold a bag of nothing but shake. dealers who move large amounts and have large amounts on hand often will sell bags of just shake for discounted prices. while it can lose potency more quickly, especially when intentionally ground, it isn't worth as much - but not always. shake from very high quality buds often contains a lot of resin glands that fell off the bud when the bits of shake did....and can even occasionally seem a tad stronger than full buds! i've known several people who preferred shakey bags when buying high quality pot - after all, it may not look as nice, but how it smokes is the most important part. if the pot is lower quality, though, the shake may be full of seeds, tiny bits of stem, and extremely dry leaves. not so good. so the quality of shake really is quite variable. its not inherently better or worse than buds.

    hash is short for hashish or haschish (there are various regional spellings) which is made in any number of different ways. lately bubblehash, a very strong type of hash made with cold water, has become quite popular...but traditionally produced hashish is usually more manual a process. regardless of how its made, it consists primarily of the resin glands of the plant which are compressed into a solid, much more potent substance. THC is not a crystaline substance, but exists in the extremely sticky oily resin produced by the cannabis plant. this resin is produced in resin glands which are found on a few parts of the plant, but almost all of it is found on the flowers of good female plants. the resin glands are tiny, but often visible to the eye. they range from pure silver/white to orange or yellow in color, and producing hash often darkens the material. the glands, when visible, are not actual crystals but DO have a crystaline appearance, prompting most people to call them that (in turn leading many to believe there is such a thing as crystaline THC, or that the resin glands are PURE THC....both are incorrect)

    hash is to marijuana as espresso is to coffee


    the meaning of the word kif, or kief, varies quite a lot depending on who you ask. either way it is what hashish is made from, but the exact meaning can be two very different things. traditionally in the east, at least in morrocco, kief refers to cannabis plant matter in general. in the west kief tends to refer not to marijuana itself, but to the resin glands specifically. in western lingo kief often refers to uncompressed resin glands while hash is compressed resin glands. many people buy or construct "kief boxes" which are usually a box with two compartments, top and bottom, seperated by a very fine mesh screen. the cannabis used for smoking is kept in the top portion, and over a long while the resin will build up in the bottom portion when the glands are inadvertantly or intentionally knocked off and fall through the screen. since kief is not an english word i can only conclude that our use of it is incorrect, while it may be inconvenient to try and change people's understanding of it. it really doesnt hurt anything to call uncompressed resin glands kief if we know what we mean, but it can create confusion when dealing with cultural differences. watch the documentary "HASHISH" about a hash producing region in the mountains of morocco, and you'll notice they use the word kief when talking about the plant. hash or hashish is the same in both languages. but what we call kief, they call powder. so regardless of what anyone has previously said about kief, the words mean different things to different people. in the english language "kief" is slang, and often but not always means something different than it does in its original language.

    this wasn't asked, but its worth mentioning....the strongest, most potent pot is from strictly the flowers of female plants grown in a complete absence of male plants. all flowering plants reproduce sexually, but most contain both male and female parts. only some species have seperate wholy male or female plants, and cannabis is one of them. the male plants are pretty much only good for causing the females to produce seeds, which is important, but can often lower the quality of the final product. if you grow females alone and do not let them produce seeds by not providing access to male plants, then the pot becomes a much higher quality often (though some LIGHTLY seeded plants can sometimes be almost as good as some seedless plants...but you'll notice the worst pot is absolutely chock full of seeds!) there are a few related terms that people often mix up regarding high quality cannabis. sensi, sensimilla, and sinsemilla. they all mean the same thing, seedless marijuana, only some silly stoners have mixed them all up. the word should be sinsemilla to stick with its linguistic origins. people often have misspelled it as sensimilla, because thats closer to how its pronounced in english, and sensi is simply a shortened version of the term. it comes from two spanish words - sin which means "without" (like the middle english word sans which comes from latin, which means the same) and semilla which means "seed." Sinsemilla would literally mean "seedless," which pretty much makes the spelling sensimilla meaningless. Of course among our generation language is becoming far more elastic and rapidly changing, and fewer people tend to care about such things.
     
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