Thank God for Atheists

If there was no God there would be no Atheists!

 

God teaches excuses. The garden teaches us about our food, our shelter, community, rhythems , dance, celebration, ourselves.

 

the garden???

God is an idea!!!!! People, we are talking about enery here. It's more a karmic thing. It's an idea of a presence. I am getting so sick of the "reason for the season" bull shit. Fine, call it what you want. the real idea behind this fucking season is love and unity. Chew on that! Jesus, smesus.

you can say you don't believe in god, per se. But don't you believe in kindness and goodness and love and humanity? it's the same thing. The presence of good energy. This "god" must be within us all...

peace and love

 

Being raised strict Southern Baptist, church, Sundays twice, Wednesday night prayer service, till I was about 15 and could just run off. I was never comfortable swallowing the christian dogma. Then a few years ago I found a Deist website. After reading there for a few months, and checking back to what I was taught, I've come to believe in the Deist doctrine; I see God a creator. Once the universe was started, he walked away, like a clock maker. He makes his creation, starts the pedulem, and walks away.

I dont for a second believe in anything that goes aginst science, and physics. So, I gave many of my previous held beliefs the boot,aliens, life after death regeneration, spirits, angels, ghosts, miricals, prophets, witchcraft, transformations, secret chants, channeling, speaking in tongues....all just nonsense to me now. It's like a ton of stupidity has been lifted from my shoulders.
But hey, knock yourself out, believe in whatever gets you by. Organized religion and governments have killed more people than anything else...ever.

 

athiests and theists both claim to know something that no one can. agnostics are simply being honest enough to admit that they/we, don't.

the sacredness IS in the 'garden'/FORREST; not in the coerciveness of human society.
i don't know if 'god' as such teaches us anything. but benther's right about the forrest (garden) teaching us what it takes to live and survive, and even enjoy living.

yem36313 seems to have the idea too, or part of it, those missess another with his appearant vendictiveness toward benther (do we even know these are not the same person?)

well mellowness is its own heavin and belligerance its own hell, gods or no gods,
i just love the little spirit critters that come to visit sometimes, and the smell of pine needles.

for me that's good enough. whatever nontangable forces and being there might be,
are not up to us, so all the arguing about their names and how many of this and that,
and what anything 3rd order of nontangable is supposed to be like, i mean is a kind of collective playing with ourselves.

my gut tells me there's something out there, but it also tells me that if i try to dictate anyone else's perception of it, i'll be just as full of crap as every other well intended priesthood to have created a system of belief.

we can SEE the nobility of the land and the dust beneath our feet to tollerate our tread. let us not so weary the land with our callus thoughtlessness that it becomes no longer able to do so.

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God is a distraction that demands allegiance to a competative, capitalist idealogy as it lays waste to our wonderous earth,

Monotheism defines separation and obedience. Monotheism is the fundemental conceptual paradigm of the English language... a veil that blinds our I's to the true Nature of our being...Mother Nature!

Here is the place!
Now is the time!

Time to celebrate who we are and what we share!
Time for us to be good stewards of this magical life that we live.
Time for us to get off our hippie ass and to tend OUR garden and most of all to teach our kids our true nature...Mother Nature.

 

Who planted your garden? God? Mother Nature? You?

 

i stuck plants in the ground, nature decided which of them would grow and which would get eaten by other life forms or simply not aclimate to the conditions they found there.

god and nature may be lovers. i don't know.
i don't know anything about god, nor more then i can observe and learn from the observation of others about nature.

and i don't believe anyone else does either.
we can feel 'god', or SOMEthing, big, friendly and nontangable, which is close enough to 'god' or 'a god' for me, but no one, can or does, honestly KNOW any more about it then that.

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im hoping the original poster was the religious type.....

for the sake of humanities intelligence

 

I hope that you are referring to the Japanese sake found in a bottle. My personal mantra in regards to religion:

“Religion is an insult to human dignity.

With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.

But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” Steven Weinberg

 

religeon, faith, belief, whatever you want to call it, this is one thing, a human thing. god or gods, should they see fit to exist, are their own thing and these are two different things that don't intrinsicly have to have anything at all to do with each other. i think perhapse some people, a lot of peoplem, are still not 'getting'/understanding that.

whatever is out there somewhere is whatever is. whatever we think we know about it, that is inside of us.

whatever is out there, god or no god or whatever, really isn't up to, nor even neccessarily has anything at all whatsoever to do, with 'us'.

belief, IS, more if not all, about US rather then whatever out there might actualy be.

whatever is out there. WE DON'T KNOW whatever is out there.
what we think we know about it, is about US.

i really think that's where the problem is, why religeon, faith, belief, runs into/causes so many problems. people encourage each other to beleive this and that, to deceive themselves in short, partialy this is a comfort, though also perhapse a false comfort, to some people, and also, some here, perhapse at least partialy rightly, see this primarily as a way some people exploit and manipulate each other, and certainly that IS done.

but i think we also need to realize, to understand the disconnect. that all of this about belief, that is ultimately about us, really doesn't have any determining of what else may or may not exist out there somewhere beyond oursleves.

nothing has to exist. nothing has to not exist. not even ourselves.
science is what we know. the unknown is an infinite range of whatever else might exist also, and being such, may or may not contain, some of what we think we know, but does not have to in any way that we think we know it.

i really think that if christians and moslems ever met their real god, that it would tell them they were all full of shit. well maybe be too kind to tell them that. but again this is a parable kind of illustration, not a kind of something that has to be.

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Ahh...the Jews, Christians and Muslims all know each other VERY well. They all believe in the big dick theory of monotheism and have been shoving it up each other's ass for at least 2000 years.